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Re: “John Yoo to Be Indicted Soon

"the known facts of what John Yoo did -- authorizing torture in violation of US and international law"

"he was . . . enabling torture."

First, both of those are legal conclusions -- the kind that are only true *after* a conviction. We can't get around that by asserting they are "known facts" or by bluntly claiming they occurred. Many people think those statements are true. Frankly, I think those statements are true. But strictly speaking, those statement carry no weight and are not relevant until after a conviction. And as a journalist, it's your responsibility to speak strictly. Even in an op ed.

Second, both plagiarism and sexual misconduct are explicitly provided for in the academic rules, because both generally occur on campus, while working in the capacity of a university professor. Allegedly authorizing torture may be more serious, but they are a different kind of animal because the Yoo events took place outside the umbrella of the university, and outside of Yoo's capacity as a professor.

Everything in your article is accurate, more or less. It's just not complete. The the failure to qualify what you have said so far, by accounting for the complexities of this case, is deceptive. The issue is much more rich and complex than either of your articles suggest, and I submit that you owe the community of your readers the whole story. Keep your conclusions -- they're accurate -- but please, paint them in full light. Not just the favorable one.

Posted by Patrick Bageant on 04/15/2009 at 4:10 PM

Re: “John Yoo to Be Indicted Soon

This article reads: "The question is: will the university keep saying Yoo is protected by academic freedom when a European country and US ally has issued a warrant for his arrest?"

I am as patriotic and as liberal as the next guy, but come on, East Bay Express -- that is NOT the question.

The University has made it quite clear that dismissing Yoo is absolutely off the table until some sort of *conviction* occurs. A warrant is not a conviction; a warrant is at best a statement of intent to proceed with charges. It's progress, but it is FAR from determinative. If you've been following the issue, you know that, and the passage quoted above is deliberately misleading. If you are not up on the issues, you should be, and the passage quoted above is irresponsible. Either way, your readers deserve better than that.

The America where we discipline people before they are proven guilty of wrongdoing in a court of law is ex-President Bush's America, not America's America. Please consider running a second article with that principle in mind.

-Patrick
Democrat & Berkeley Law Student

Posted by Patrick Bageant on 04/14/2009 at 1:18 PM

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