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Re: “Occupy Oakland's Livestreamer Controversy

AK: "At 13:50, OaktownPirate narrates the offscreen "traditional burning" of Old Glory by Native American Running Wolf, who "pretty much burns an American flag every week at the F*** The Police march." Pirate, however, says: "I'm not going to film him doing it."

At 15:00, Pirate adds: "I respect his right to burn the flag … I just think he's a knucklehead for doing it … and makes Occupy Oakland in general look bad."

All true.

Here's the thing. I verbally acknowledged that it was burnt. Again. For the record. I kinda think that was being transparent.

Given the tenor of your anti-OO posts over at, what I hear from you is that you want a fresh picture of a flag being desecrated every week so you can wave it around in outrage and point indignantly at OO. Go through my stream and you can screencap more than a few. You already screencapped a shot of the flag being dragged on the pavement from TOL's livestream of the Feb 18th OO FTP march up to Cal campus and used it for your post about the murder that happened that night in Berkeley. That’s fine; the stream is Creative Commons licensed Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) and we encourage people to use our footage and images in accordance with the license. But it weakens your argument that I’m “consistently refusing” to show the flag burning.

Running Wolf or someone like-minded is gonna burn an American Flag on an FTP march. Not guaranteed, but it's been pretty consistent. But If you've been following my stream and think that what Team Oaktown Live has been doing is trying to hide that fact, you’re smoking better shit than our local dispensaries get.

Of more interest to me and my teammate Lexica is the community reaction to the march and the law-enforcement response to political expression in the public square. I think what I've filmed and said while doing it bears that out.

This is because we live in here in Oakland. Things like community opinion of OO and how the police conduct themselves affect our lives directly.

The weekly Voltaire Award for free speech via rapid oxidation is a thing, but maybe it seems more important or relevant out in places like Redwood City or Walnut Creek.


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Posted by Nick Baban on 03/14/2012 at 4:01 PM

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