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Re: “Was Operator of Oakland Warehouse Fire Venue 'Warned' of Safety Issues, 'Illegal' Construction, Danger?

one of the saddest ironies is that there is literally ACME Fire Extinguisher store less than 100 yards away from this "tinderbox" that apparently no one at this warehouse ever patronized

Posted by lil mike on 12/04/2016 at 2:22 PM

Re: “'I Genuinely Thought I Was Going To Die': Reddit User Describes Terrifying Escape From Oakland Warehouse Fire

I add this comment in response to the accusation that I am "high and mighty" for recognizing the liabilities in the absolute tragic failure and terrible consequences of the Ghost Ship event space rent party fire. As someone who has participated in the "underground" event economy for three decades, I am appalled at the fact that several of those that profited from this type of activity were initially worried about their "gear" and possessions they had "worked" hard for, while their attendees died in agony. Have many of the events I've promoted or attended been overcrowded at times, or dangerous? yes... but were lives lost? NO. At Klub Komotion the sparse decor may've included a few ratty couches, but hallway was well lit and wide. After some initial skirting of regulations in the late 80's, eventually (and oft under duress and great expen$e) we cooperated with authorities, to keep the place operating until eviction in the late 1990's. During the the time I was involved, we actually went down monthly to Mission Station and obtained permits from the police on a per event basis, and operated as an actual 501-c3 non-profit with offsite office for several years . We were not a residential compound and never actually bribed the fire marshall as was hinted to us, but still managed to have hundreds of safe events. We had someone get a rock thrown at their head and I've had irresponsible "burner" types insist on using torches in the dark crowded enclosed spaces against my physical and verbal protestations, but fortunately we all survived, and to my knowledge not one ambulance was ever called. At another warehouse party I was involved with last year, someone collapsed and hurt their head, but this was due to a medical condition, not furniture set in their path. I just want to say, it takes effort to hold an event and safety is a very serious and oft hard to manage goal. The obvious lack of serious consideration for fire is apparent in the decor of the Ghost Ship which was densely filled with wood and fabric with electronics intermingled. Many people have referred to that space as the Death Trap long before Friday's fire took so many lives. To cast aspersions in my direction because I am upset at the obvious failings on the part of those that abused their responsibilities is misguided at best. I love underground events, and understand that people need places to perform and gather outside the commercial venue circuit, but there are spaces that are better than others, and repercussions for doing a poor job of mitigating the safety considerations, and it is not something to be taken lightly. Don't blame the economy, or the government, or your parents, as ultimately there is no justice, just us. Do the right things and you won't ever be sorry... that is all.

Posted by (0) on 12/04/2016 at 2:06 PM

Re: “'I Genuinely Thought I Was Going To Die': Reddit User Describes Terrifying Escape From Oakland Warehouse Fire

I have been going to and even helped throw dozens of "warehouse" parties in SF & Oakland since the late 1980's. Underground culture has been my lifeblood longer than most of these fire victims have been alive. While I have no direct experience attending events at the Ghost Ship space in Fruitvale, I have observed it for years from the sidewalk and wondered what the hell was happening there. I writhe in pain at thought of the pointless deaths that occured, and the demise of so many young creative souls, yet harbor I harbor no illusions that those involved must escape the legal consequences they set themselves up for in enabling and enticing customers to this Fruitvale Death Trap. This was not just an accident of fate, but a preventable catastrophe. Our society, while ostensibly opposed to fascism, discrimination or unecessaary government intrusions, must recognize public safety as a primary and unavoidable reality when celebrating its freedoms and diversity. To invite your comrades to die enmass in order to pay your rent does not make you a cultural hero. I mourn for the victims and those that dod not consider what they were participating in, as this was not just an accident, but a conspiracy.

Posted by lil mike on 12/03/2016 at 8:36 PM

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