Bruce Ferrell 
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Re: “The Forces Driving Gentrification in Oakland

Well Vincent, we can spread that couple hundred people (and their cars) all over the city sucking up more of the limited and few available units... Or we can build higher density housing to accommodate the influx. People aren't breeding to causing this boom/demand.

I'm extremely curious. How many tell their employers "they'll work for the minimum possible and just give the rest to the poor". No? Didn't think so. So how is renting at under market different?

I'm REALLY unhappy about the corporations who bought up property... And will play the tax games they've been playing since '78 and further rip off the community.

Howl about gentrification all you like, but fix prop 13 and huge chunks of the problems go away, not immediately, but fairly soon.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/19/2018 at 6:20 PM

Re: “Residents Report Being Evicted from Tuff Shed Camp

Other concerns: The non-profit operating the camp had a sexual assault reported and did NOTHING? Granted, the parties involved attempted to solve it weapons and both were removed, but this REALLY reeks.

And not EVEN the "advocates" or author found this... Difficult?

W a i t a m i n u t e!!!

Is the white house writing these now?

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 11:00 PM

Re: “Seven Longtime Oakland Residents Share Their Thoughts on Gentrification

Yeah, in the 70's through most of the 90's Oakland WAS an abandoned zone.

Only a few of us wanted to be here for what ever our reasons were, so it was cheap and loose. So is land outside Winnemucca ($99/acre on signs I saw driving past). No one wants to be there either. Who wants to take bets that land will be very valuable in the future but there is a lot more of it around and the weather sucks so it won't go up AS FAST. Reno was cheap too once.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, before BART, there was a REALLY rich downtown in Oakland. For two decades after... Not so much.

I especially appreciate Mr Bryant's comments in general and on who is a gentrifier. Family legend had it that we had some Native American. Ancestry says different... So much for that legend, so I fall into that category.

For a time, I lived in Sacramento with my teenaged kids. They used words and phrases I had no recognition of. When I moved back... Oh yeah! And that was 30 years ago.

Point is, people been grabbing words, phrases and whatever for a LONG time. If they think it's cool, they do. It's not gentrification and it's not because they've come to Oakland. It just fits the ideal of the moment and maybe trying, badly, to not appear to be so much of a doofus.

Everything in, not just the Bay Area, but the whole state is changing.

I was born and bred right here... And I don't know anyone else who is even from this state, let alone right here. And many complain, it's not like "blank".

I used to tell them "there is a border north, south, east and if you can swim west. Use one if you don't like it here".

I've been away from the bay. I now know why they come. I made the same complaints when I was in those places. So I know how that is too.

As a certain actor said in a movie of the same name, "Things Change".

They're just changing faster now and I don't know anyone who really likes that,

And even the orange one can't get a wall built (thank the deitie(s) you may choose!)

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 10:52 PM

Re: “Gentrification Changed the Names of Oakland Neighborhoods

Actually, I live in "Millsmont" in a house built in 1953. The property maps from THEN call it Millsmont.

There are other names for nearby neighborhoods related to the Chevy plant that was in Oakland at the time.

I really wish he would at least TRY.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 8:03 PM

Re: “State Bill Would Be a Game-Changer for California's Home Cooks

In general, I like the idea... Just like I liked the "freewheeling" lofts... Until 37 people died and I found out hundreds more were living in vermin infested spaces that the owners couldn't/wouldn't clean up (can't do much if not much is coming in).

I think this will be a HUGE boon... Until a bad batch happens. And then an even bigger bust. It won't be pretty.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 7:54 PM

Re: “The Forces Driving Gentrification in Oakland

OK... I'm 60. I was born in the East Bay. I remember downtown Oakland in the mid to late 60's. Stores, theaters.. people and cars everywhere. Same for Downtown Richmond. Then came the BART construction.

For all intents and purposes both downtowns were torn down and closed for business. Once the construction was done, the businesses had moved on or gone out of business due not to red-lining, predatory lending or any of those other listed factors. Similar things happened to the lower Market area of San Francisco... Actually most of Market street.

In San Francisco, urban renewal dollars were used to rehabilitate the area, and even so, porn places were all up and down upper market and it was all quite skeezy and didn't get cleaned up until the Financial boom of the mid to late 80's. The migration from San Francisco skipped over the bay side cities and went over the hills to Concord, Walnut Creek and Pleasant Hill... Small slepply little places with virtually no entrenched Tammany Hall infrastructure... Like Oakland had and Berkeley had in the form of UC Berkeley.

Oakland didn't even begin a rebound until the early 90's. Downtown was still boarded up. drug dealers and "others" were operating quite openly all up and down San Pablo ave clear up to the Emeryville/Berkeley border. We won't even discuss International/East 14th.

While all of this was going on city/county officials hustled, wheeled and dealed to assure the Raiders, Warriors and As' were well cared for to the tune of, in the case of the Raiders, a million dollars a year. Heavy industry and warehousing, which had been the employment backbone of Oakland Evaporated. The stores (and jobs) long gone.

And that was OK by the electorate. Oakland also got the shame of the OPD riders... We still haven't cleared up THAT mess. Along with them came Jerry Brown and the first serious effort to rehabilitate Oakland, starting with Jack London Square and the downtown districts. The howls were incredible!

Until '89 and the Loma Preta earthquake, everything west of what is now Mandela Parkway was very effectively isolated by the wall of steel and concrete that had been the freeway there. It was in even worse shape than Downtown had been or International. Block after block of boarded up old Victorians. Usually with all utilities cut off... But that didn't stop the illicit uses. .. But then again, this too is where the Riders came from.

None of that changed until the late 90's (dot com 1.0). And the howls began again... Until the whole idea of using your property as a piggy bank (dumb) took hold. In 2005, there were rumbles from and Economics school at UCLA this MIGHT not be a good idea. What did they know? Two years later, we found out and the howls haven't stopped since then.

That's the short course of Oakland over the last 60 years or so.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 7:42 PM

Re: “Is the Only Way to Make Housing Affordable By De-Commodifying It?

Well, it's interesting an interesting experiment. Looking over the information on the web site, it's been in operation since 2009, funded by the city. With the first home let in 2011, and from what they say, it wasn't until three years later that two more were rehabilitated with 18 homes on inventory today... And one urban farm?!

OK, the fact the concept originated in the 19th century and somehow failed to take hold, is somehow not very encouraging. Add to that the city funded it originally in 2009 and almost 10 years later has so few homes and people served.

Somehow the word theater comes to mind.

One practical question DOES come to mind though...

Given the prop 13 regulations, how does this work out when the "owner" "sells" the property back to the trust? With other owners, with the transfer, there is a sudden large jump in property taxes... Or is the trust playing the game (bad phrase, I know, but work with me) corporate property holders have been playing since '78?

If so, while this is a good thing for people in need of a place to live, doesn't community as a whole suffer (loss of tax revenue is loss of tax revenue).

Figuring at 18 properties and assigning an arbitrary tax value $6000 per year or $108000 in property taxes collected... And if using the corporate method, never an increase.

I like the idea in general, but I think the devil is in the details. 19th century realities may not apply well here and now.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 09/18/2018 at 7:04 PM

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