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Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21…

Click above--US Department of Justice link published in 2010 'Best Practice to Address Community Gang Problems' page 43 sums it up well

Here is another link for those who support curfew and injuction measures in Oakland…


Posted by ZRobinette on 09/22/2011 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

p.s. Max, I don't doubt that Bob tried and failed to reach Batts. Bob has, after all, repeatedly written here that Batts should be fired. Why should Batts give him the time of day?

Posted by yoyo_guru on 09/22/2011 at 8:49 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21


Right, and you only had to look as far as Bill Bratton to see that gang injunctions work, sometimes dramatically so.

There's a clear bias here, but at least it's not hidden. We all know where Bob stands. His evidence is cherry-picked. He may see that, he may not. I'm not sure any longer, because it seems he believes what he believes so fervently. I don't have a problem with it as long as the bias remains clear. I think the problem is that his medium is not really the same as Chip's. Everyone assumes and knows that Chip is a columnist. Whereas in the Express, Bob writes sometimes as a reporter and sometimes as an editorial writer, and naive readers are more likely to assume that his opinions are as thoroughly vetted and balanced as statements made by other reporters.


Posted by yoyo_guru on 09/22/2011 at 8:36 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

Thank you for the comments. To add to the debate here is a link to a report published by the US Department of Justice entitled Best Practice to Address Community Gang Problems. Note page 43 which sums it all up fairly well. I am for all measures of protection and safety.…

Posted by ZRobinette on 09/22/2011 at 8:33 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

Chief Batts came here from Long Beach and when he arrived, he talked about how curfews had been successful in Long Beach.

Robert Gammon said he couldn't reach Batts for his story. But one would have hope that Gammon had tried a little harder to research the Long Beach curfew.

Here's the second hit you get when you google "Long Beach Curfew Law". It's a little further down the page if you only google "Long Beach Curfew", but it's still on the first page.…

It's a document from a credible organization, the US Department of Justice, and it cites some success stories, along with pros and cons.

It includes data from Long Beach, New Orleans, and Dallas, all of which suggest that crime went down after the imposition of a curfew.

Data from a credible source, supporting curfews, is exactly what Robert Gammon claimed he couldn't find. I found it with an obvious google search.

Posted by Max A on 09/22/2011 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

Z, I agree. But since only a one-sided solution is constantly being touted by EBX (social programs, social programs, social programs - curfews "don't work," there's "no evidence" that curfews work, there's "no evidence" that gang injunctions work, yada yada yada), I am pushing for the other side.

A patient who's bleeding out should not simply be prescribed a more wholesome diet. She might need a tourniquet as well.

Sometimes a bandaid IS what's needed until deep healing can take place.

Posted by yoyo_guru on 09/22/2011 at 8:14 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

All the debate is fine. However, Oakland ranked sixth in the nation again this year for violent crime-two more deaths since this debate began. Unemployment is high, Oakland unified schools ranked a D overall, dropout rates are extremely high and as schools are slated to close, these kids will have one more obstacle to overcome. We can agree these are sad times.

Clearly, there is ample room for many viable solutions. One solution will not be enough and one solution should not negate another. As the writer above states, look to New York City or look to Stockton, CA whose city used the state funded Cease Fire program successfully.

Mayor Quan recently stated she is looking at a multi-faceted approach; something everyone should get behind. Chief Batts stated clearly what he needs to get the job done. Oakland would do well to support Chief Batts. We would do well to get beyond a 'fixed position' approach to public safety solutions and seek ways to integrate all viable measures. All concerned parties wish for the same outcome.

Bottom line, in these violent uncertain times we should be saying YES AND to all viable solutions. YES to more prevention programs AND YES to curfew and injunction measures all aimed at one thing-- protecting people.

Posted by ZRobinette on 09/22/2011 at 7:38 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of September 21

All the feel-good talk aside, Bill Bratton, who reduced violent crime by 39% in New York, believes in gang injunctions. He's been called on to advise the UK on their gang problem. Maybe Oakland should give him a jingle.

"As New York's police commissioner in the 1990s, the 'supercop' introduced a ground-breaking policy under which officers cracked down hard on even the smallest infringements to deter people from carrying out bigger crimes.
This led to major crimes falling 39 per cent, with murders down 50 per cent, during his time in charge..."

Read more:…

Posted by yoyo_guru on 09/21/2011 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 24

No, it wasn't and if you read the responses to the Amazon review, not by Amazon itself but by a notorious leftist hatchetman, you would see the nasty review itself was debunked.
But then the intellectually better thing to do would be to read the book itself to see the author's reasoning which led to his conclusions.
The ideological think tank is an academic institution and accredited in the state where it lives. It is no more an ideological institution than Harvard or
Berkeley or Yale or Columbia or you name it.
You have obviously not read the book because your last sentence totally gives you away. You give no examples refuting his copious documentation
and use shabby terms like 'bunk' to describe arguments that you have never read much less refuted.
Gintis is a longtime socialist so why didn't you mention his ideological bias ?
I've read books Gintis has co-authored with Sam Bowles.
If you look at the customer reviews on Amazon you will see where they were refuted as well as the customer refutations of Gintis on Woods.
The publisher is a longtime conservative publisher that has been around since 1945 and their sales show that they are anything but 'fringe.'
And what does one book on the 2004 campaign have to do with Woods's
book ? Every publisher puts out a wide variety of books.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?
Woods is thoroughly educated in economics as well as history and this is not his first economics book.
Did you really think that you were going to impress with what you wrote ?

Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 08/31/2011 at 6:36 PM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 24

Thomas Woods's book got pretty thoroughly debunked in the Amazon reviews, in particular a review by professional economist and UMass prof Herbert Gintis. Woods's degrees (both baccalaureate and PhD) are in history, not economics. He works at an ideological think tank rather than an academic institution. His book is published by an ideological fringe publishing house that is known, among other things, for publishing the thoroughly-debunked smear piece Unfit for Command (the **original** Swift Boating) in 2004. Woods's claimed "documentation" documents little, and his arguments are basically bunk.

Posted by Jim1967 on 08/31/2011 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 31

Prop 13 is supposed to handcuff government, that is the whole idea. The alternative is we get handcuffed by government for failure to pay ever higher taxes as was the case before Prop 13 or we just lose our homes.
A close friend in New Jersey just had her property taxes raised from 7K to 9K annually. New Jersey is a very high tax, high regulation state and she gets squat for services. Her power has been out since last Friday night and it may not be restored until next week !
She tells us that that is typical of the way most public services are run there albeit a little more extreme than usual.
I do agree with the letter writer that the public needs to stop looking to government for answers if they want lower taxes.

Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 08/31/2011 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 24

Mr. Isacoff, we haven't had any anarchism so that is not the culprit in the current scenario. See Meltdown by Thomas Woods, Jr. for a documented
study of how the Feds caused the current depression by easy credit and an inane
Clinton era anti-discrimination law that forced them to give mortgages to unqualified buyers.
Both you, Mr. Zolno and Mr. West would benefit from reading Economic Controversies by Murray Rothbard, avaliable from Amazon and no sales tax !

Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 08/24/2011 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 20

meant to say:...I don't think anyone would argue that the music is NOT one of the main draws, if not THE main draw, to the event.

Posted by yoyo_guru on 08/17/2011 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 20

Hooray for Debra Sherman. Boycott the Stroll. As for Krebs' statement that the Stroll does not benefit the merchants: the Solano Avenue Association states on its 2010 IRS 990 Form that the purpose of the Stroll is to benefit the "more than 400" merchants of the association, and categorizes the Stroll as "Fundraising." The Stroll generated $105 K in 2010, with expenses of $50 K and only $13 K for "entertainment," according to the association's 990 form. (Cain misstated that amount as $25 K to the EBX reporter. One wonders why.) I don't think anyone would argue that the music is one of the main draws, if not THE main draw, to the event. It figures prominently in all the association's advertising for the Stroll.

Cain was paid $55 K in 2009 and received a raise of $7 K in 2010, about half the grand total of what what the musicians were paid. It is mind-boggling that the association has not seen fit to throw a few crumbs the musicians' way. In fact, it's shameful. Cain and the Solano Avenue Association should hang their heads in shame.

Boycott the Solano Stroll.

Posted by yoyo_guru on 08/17/2011 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 3


Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 08/03/2011 at 10:40 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of August 3

"College students should not ever have political say in the city they go to school in, unless they grew up there. You are a "guest" in the city. Get over yourself.

Entitled little sissies ...."

But, who will speak for the entitled little sissies? Should they try to find a wimp to promote their cause?

Posted by Lawngun on 08/03/2011 at 8:18 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of July 27

Way to hide the news of Ms. Swan's award. I think it's safe to come out now. Those creepy bawdy people are all gone.

Posted by Lawngun on 08/02/2011 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Letters for the Week of June 22

There is no such animal as a cost-effective governmental program. If the need for adult education is as great as is claimed here, then let it be privately provided, by either a profit or nonprofit group.
Every time ANY governmental program is facing the axe apologists come out claiming it is indispensable, etc. If the idea has enough merit that a sufficient number of people voluntarily support it it will succeed.
If not, it shouldn't.

Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 06/22/2011 at 9:39 AM

Re: “Letters for the Week of June 8

pinball wizardry an almost extinct art appreciation gradually diminishing, in a rapidly expanding cyberworld of virtuality made mostly somewhere across the sea, magically appearing on shelves at the shopping mall filling the world with chatter more profuse than solid matter.....pinball machines employed craftmen to design the machine, carpenter the console, engineers hooked up the wire harnesses, made moving mechanical parts,
kept lots of people busy....
Ipods, tablets, Ereaders MP3 players etc, maybe a handful of guys get together in a garage, put together a prototype, grab a bankers attention, fill the garage with money, open up a factory on the other side of the world
keeping tens of thousands busy. The pinball wizards, with the magic gone, cant a find a place for pinball machines to call home. Alameda with its ghost naval base has no vacancies available to furnish the pinball wizard's needed space. the plan instead is to to bare no bones, in spite of todays housing markets Alameda's future holds prospects for stick and mortar homes....

Posted by RailTern on 06/11/2011 at 4:34 PM

Re: “Letters for the Week of June 8

I agree with Lawngun's general philosophical comments about bankruptcy. Probably in a free society these laws would not exist because why is it moral for a third party to void the debt owed by the second party to the first ?
But government is different in that it is coercively supported unlike all other entities in society.
If bankruptcy is allowed for the city or any city it should be so structured that the city never gets credit again and totally lives within its then very constricted budget.
We all know the Federal Debt will eventually to be repudiated because there's no way it can be paid back and morally it shouldn't because some people have benefited from it while many haven't.
That the DC area is the most prosperous in the nation is because they are living off the fat of the land. I grew up back there and they really think that they are special but they are not.
Nor are we in the vastly overrated Bay Area.

Posted by mike_hardesty7909a on 06/08/2011 at 9:49 AM

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