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Re: “Caffe Trieste

Rachel Swan, you need to get over yourself, honey. You do not know what the hell you are talking about.

Posted by Barbara on 10/23/2009 at 12:36 PM

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This is so outrageously out of touch an dismissive, I can only assume the author has completely missed her attempt at humor. So knitting doesn't take "time, patience, or dexterity". Let's see her try knitting a sock using FIVE needles, or knitting a lace table cloth using yarn the size of sewing thread and needles barely larger than a regular sewing needle. If the "East Bay Express" is actually paying for this kind of uninformed nonsense, they should probably invest in a paper shredder - it will give a much more valuable return.

Posted by Debbie on 10/23/2009 at 12:00 PM

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Funny, I don't see a date on this article saying when it was posted. Not that it really matters as it's so misguided and uninformed. Perhaps next time Ms. Swan will get all her facts and information before writing anything? One can only hope...

Posted by Crystal on 10/22/2009 at 2:05 PM

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Wow! You just dismissed thousands of knitters in one article.

I knit for enjoyment, relaxation and the companionship of other knitters. I also love the ability to supply friends and family with warming gifts.

I grew up on Dwight Way and was sure I would miss the Bay Area terribly when we moved to Oregon. I do miss CA but the coffee shop and a grocery store where I knit with groups of like-minded knitters welcome us and certainly don't look down their noses at us like the author of this article does. Maybe she was poked by a needle once?

By the way, we are able to pay our bills on time and eat regularly but are not "well-heeled. It's not necessary to have lots of money to knit.

Posted by kathy on 10/22/2009 at 12:53 PM

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I note with interest the comment that this posting is 3 years old, as I found it when searching for events taking place between the 26th of November, and the 4th of December, 2009. However, its age does not detract from its offensiveness.

Posted by Debby Abrahams on 10/22/2009 at 12:35 PM

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I invite you to try learning to knit before making asinine comparisons. Flower arranging? Really? Even the simplest scarf is a heck of a lot more work than shoving some flowers in a vase. And who the heck spackles a roof?

Posted by Sarah Fama on 10/22/2009 at 12:10 PM

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Hi All,
Thanks for your enlightening comments, which have helped draw by attention to this long-expired, three-year-old calendar listing. You get one more week to beat me up before I delete it.
All best,
Rachel Swan

Posted by Rachel Swan on 10/22/2009 at 11:16 AM

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It is unfortunate that the author of this post is such a dud. Caffe Trieste must be a bit irritated that their business has now been linked with a snarly point of view and an unpleasant and off-putting dismissal of a pastime.

True enough, knitting isn't terribly flashy, and it's awfully mundane, but neither of those negate its relevance; they simply negate it to the author. It will continue to be relevant to those who take part in it. Much the same way that DIY roofing, ikebana arranging, soapmaking and yes, even macrame are relevant to those enthusiasts.

It really is too bad that the author wasn't skilled enough with satire or tongue-in-cheek to make this post funny, because all he has succeeded in doing is overtly insulting a pretty large group of people, and backhandedly doing so to several others. i have a feeling the knit night won't be very well attended.

Posted by kristine on 10/22/2009 at 11:15 AM

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"Since it doesn't require as much time, patience, or dexterity as, say, making flower arrangements, spackling a roof, or cleaning your own house..."

Not to insult flower arrangers, roof spacklers (whatever that might mean) or cleaners but this is just the most ridiculous sentence I have ever read.

Has the writer of this article ever seen a piece of knitted clothing, let alone seen anyone knit anything?

Even a simple pair of fingerless mittens or a plain scarf will take several evenings for most knitters. Some intricate knitted items can take a month or more to complete. I can slap together a flower arrangement (hardly florist quality, but whatever) in about 15 minutes!


Posted by Belinda Robinson on 10/22/2009 at 10:58 AM

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That was a horrible way to be introduced to your newspaper. The misinformation in that article was amazing. I hope that you realize that this is being read all over the wold thanks to the knitting community. This is a sad commentary on the unschooled non-knitting public. I would hope this reporter gets repremanded strongly.

Posted by Kelly G on 10/22/2009 at 10:21 AM

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As everything in life, knitting is what you make of it. Your dismissive and even hostile attitude says a lot more about you than it does about knitting and knitters.

If *you* can't be bothered to care about it more than spackling a roof (what does that even mean?), that's your issue. There are countless people out there creating works of great intricacy, creativity, and beauty. Some practical, some whimsical, some based on traditions that are hundreds of years old, some using new and innovative techniques. You certainly have no obligation to participate, but if you're going to write about it, you at least have an obligation to educate yourself first.

By the way, the phrase "Stitch & Bitch" has been around for decades longer than the book franchise. A little research goes a long way.

Posted by woolwoman on 10/22/2009 at 10:11 AM

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What a ridiculous article. Besides coming across as written from someone who has knitting envy coupled with mass consumption disease, it's very poorly researched. There are lots of men who knit, not just women. My boyfriend learned from me but could've learned it from his dad as easily.
In addition, knitting is an artform. Surely arts aren't seen as 'rustic'?
A quick internet search would've helped this writer immensely

I bet the poor author wears walmart socks.....


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Posted by rewselene aka laurie on 10/22/2009 at 9:34 AM

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If it takes you longer to clean your house than to knit a sweater, you must have one dirty house. Just sayin'...

Posted by Susan Santos on 10/22/2009 at 8:50 AM

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"Since it doesn't require as much time, patience, or dexterity as, say, making flower arrangements, spackling a roof, or cleaning your own house..."

Spackling a roof? Really? I didn't know that roofs were spackled. Walls and ceilings, yes -- but roofs?

"Editor's Note: Comments are not edited or fact-checked by the East Bay Express."

Although the Editor isn't "fact-checking" these comments, perhaps it would be prudent to "fact-check" the material he/she puts out every once in a while.

Posted by KnitGuy on 10/22/2009 at 8:46 AM

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Graduating from a place like Berkeley, I would have hoped the culture of enlightenment would have rubbed off on you, Rachel Swan, but it obviously hasn't. Perhaps you find your little jib-jab at knitting and knitting culture hilariously clever. Well, it isn't. You just come off as a snide and ignorant person. As a proud graduate of Berkeley myself (1996), I am quite ashamed to call you a fellow alum.

Posted by Beargrad on 10/22/2009 at 8:35 AM

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If it takes you longer to clean your house than to knit a sweater, you must have one really dirty house. Just sayin'...

Posted by Susan Santos on 10/22/2009 at 8:33 AM

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Next time you get someone to write about knitting, how about you get someone who knows what they're talking about? Flower arranging takes a few minutes, knitting, an ancient craft, takes considerably longer, even for the most simple garment. And as far as snideness about doom, gloom, macrame and control, the fact is that even in the most highly industrialized consumer-driven society the world has ever known (the US) there are lots and lots of things not in the stream of commerce, comfy chemo caps and practical preemie caps among them. So lighten up on the 'tude, OK?

Posted by TECHknitter on 10/22/2009 at 7:58 AM

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Actually, I think a Stitch and Bitch might be just the thing for you. At least you've already got the bitch part down.

This is an unbelievably snarky, uninformed, and insulting piece of writing.

Posted by Hanna on 10/22/2009 at 7:42 AM

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Good heavens. With that attitude, are you trying to get people to come, or drive them away in droves?

I'm glad to know that my impatient, well-heeled self derives a sense of satisfaction from creating my own accessories only when economic doom threatens. I guess once the economy recovers I'll be happy to go from handknit lace which took half a year to create back to $10 scarves from Rue 21.

Posted by Laura H on 10/22/2009 at 7:40 AM

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So an event for impatient, clumsy women wasting their time with knitting is the "Critic's Choice". I shudder to think what the alternatives were.

Posted by Daniela Berger on 10/22/2009 at 7:37 AM

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