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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion: The Oakland Zone

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Sour grapes AF ,Raidernation wont die it will multiply, your article is very bias ,do you really read what you write?
Raiders brand is Global whether you believe it or not. The greatness of the Raiders is in its future and the future is Vegas, stop hating is actually bad for your health.

Posted by Junior Gonzalez on 01/31/2019 at 9:34 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Well, @donna Glover, you're exactly the kinda gal I wear my plunkett Jersey for! Plus, without that bull tuck rule, we'd have what the pats got for the last 17 years. Just like the immaculate reception; the league hated Al, and found ways to keep the raiduhs down as punishment. Enjoy your shamefully overhyped franchise.

Posted by howsthatworkin4ya on 01/29/2019 at 12:36 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

I don't care if they play in Madagascar, and never win another game in the existence of the NFL. I'll still bleed silver and black, and so will my kids, and their kids and so on. F the boys, pats & their stats, and lame ass Dan fouts!

Posted by howsthatworkin4ya on 01/29/2019 at 12:25 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Wow sour grapes indeed. You can go on and on about the Raiders and the Davis family but maybe you should ask yourself why the worthless Mayor Of Oakland Libby Schaff did absolutely nothing before the Las Vegas deal was on the table. Noooooo! she was too busy putting out Amber Alerts for the illegal aliens and kissing their butts while all the money went right out the door. When the Sacramento Kings were about to leave town Mayor Kevin Johnson showed real leadership and got in the middle of things. Libby Schaff did absolutely nothing! So while you are eager to put the Raider Organization down maybe you should point the finger in her direction also. Dont really care about your sour grapes! RAIDER NATION ALIVE AND WELL!

Posted by Robert Hemphill on 01/29/2019 at 11:25 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

@Donna Glover the raiders have 3 Super Bowl wins the bears only have one. They tried to build a stadium in Oakland but the damn politicians and the athletics prevented them from doing it. The athletic dont even want to be in Oakland they want to move to San Jose but the mlb dont let them, theyre pretty much stuck in Oakland. Stop being the psycho ex girlfriend who cant stand seeing the other succeed in life. Whether you accept it or not the raiders will dominate once again. Raider Nation for life Just Win Baby

Posted by Jesus Martinez on 01/29/2019 at 10:19 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Sounds like someone is hurt and decided to write an article

Posted by Michael Rochelle on 01/29/2019 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Time will tell whether the Raiders will succeed in Vegas. Im done after 45 years of being a supporter though. Raider Nation has always been corny to me, and will be put to the test. A weekend in Vegas will cost what my season tickets do.

Interestingly, Jason Cole reported that Davis agreed to defend and indemnify the NFL and the other 31 clubs in any litigation arising out of the move. Im having trouble believing theyd be that stupid, frankly, but you never know. Each club and the league will hire the most expensive lawyers in town, nevermind any potential verdict following an astronomically expensive jury trial, if it gets that far, and Davis will pay for it all, if the report is true.

At the end of the day, if youre not proud of being from Oakland, and they are the only home grown franchise, they should leave and never mention the word Oakland again. The only upside of the move has been how it has revealed so many Raider fans that travel to and tailgate in Oakland, who actually hate the city. Funny how they never mentioned that before.

Posted by Jesse Adams on 01/29/2019 at 9:39 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Oakland native, daughter of a season ticket holder pre-move to LA, I hate the Raiders organization. Al Davis' legacy lives on. He treated his host city, Oakland like garbage and could care less about the fans. I never wanted the Raiders to come back, when they did, they crapped over the Athletics who held down the ballpark for 15 years alone. Only to have it ruined by the construction-obstruction of Mt. Davis that even the Raiders do not use. Laugh all you want, this Oakland gal is a Patriots fan. How many Super Bowls have the Raiders won? Steelers, Cowboys, 49'ers, Pats, Bears all have dynasties. Raider have hype.

Posted by DONNA GLOVER on 01/29/2019 at 7:43 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

You clearly haven't spent any time out of the east bay. The Raiders could move to San Diego and sell out the Q every game. They have huge fan bases and they will travel once the Raiders play in a real stadium. I travel up to the Coli 8 times a year and and I can't wait to go to Vegas. I was born in the east bay and the Coli is an embarrassment. They've lost the Warriors & the Raiders, and the A's will be gone soon too. Nothing is ever getting built with the joke that is the city & the county.

Posted by John Van Deusen on 01/29/2019 at 12:57 AM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

The NFL jumped the shark guys. Don't let it mean so much. It is all run thru Park Ave. now.

Posted by Lex Steele on 01/28/2019 at 6:09 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Like his big brother in the White House (Trump), Mark Davis is wrong on every single issue. It must be the tan and the hair. Davis forgets that the main thing that built and cultivated the Raider mystique was WINNING. When Al moved the Raiders to LA in 1985, they were arguably the most successful franchise in all of sports over the previous 20 years. In the last 20 years, they are among the least successful franchises in sports. The Raiders arrived in LA about the same time as gangster rap hit the music scene and their colors became part of that genre. However, fan attendance in LA is always dependent upon what else is going on that day. LA folks support three sports franchises, the Dodgers, the Lakers and USC football. Beyond that, they will turn out if it is the place to be at the hot game of the week, but if not, there are plenty other things to do. Las Vegas is a pipe dream and one of the shakiest set of financial assumptions ever compiled to justify moving a professional sports team and building a stadium. Approval of this charade by NFL owners reflects their greedy desire to collectively be involved in on line gaming. It was Jerry Jones, not Mark Davis who sold this Raider move to Las Vegas to the other NFL owners. Jones and Robert Kraft (New England) already have millions invested in this growing industry and the other owners want a piece of the action. At the end of the day, if you live foul, the universe will not reward you. Mark Davis is very foul and delusional. His arrogance and stupidity dooms him to many more years of losing seasons in Vegas. Nobody deserves it more than him. He and his sorry franchise cannot leave town fast enough. Asta la vista baby!

Posted by GPatton on 01/28/2019 at 5:59 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Stop taking down my comments because you dont want the writers feelings to be hurt. Improve the quality by writing about a team you are objective about. Even if it wasnt intentional its blatant sour grapes. Try again, seriously.

Posted by jrock425 on 01/28/2019 at 5:46 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

You should write about a team you are objective about. Sour grapes article. Obvious the fan in you is hurting and wants the team to fail. Of course the rating in media arent very good rn theyve been losing for years . Give me an article that isnt filled with shots at the team because the writer is crying about their move. We get it. I couldnt even read the second half of page 2 as it was so clearly written by someone who is upset about their relocation.

Posted by jrock425 on 01/28/2019 at 5:44 PM

Re: “Raiders ‘Global’ Brand Is a Myth

Lol talk about butt hurt. Of course the ratings arent as high as those teams. Those teams all made the playoffs this year. This article just comes off as sour grapes honestly. Didnt even bother reading the second half of page 2 as it was clearly written by someone who wants to see the raiders fail after they move. Write about a team you are objective about.

Posted by jrock425 on 01/28/2019 at 5:37 PM

Re: “Get Your Money, Murray

"By todays standards, it was fairly mild stuff"

Bruce Maxwell ordered food delivered then, while drunk, pointed a gun in the face of the woman who delivered it. That is not mild stuff by any standards. It is abhorrent and I am glad he's gone.

He proceeded to slash ,219/.300/.281 in AAA last year, so in addition, he sucks. Love the anthem stance though.

Posted by Yojimbo on 01/16/2019 at 5:55 PM

Re: “Get Your Money, Murray

I too applaud Kyler Murray for playing the leverage game to his maximum advantage. Far too often it is the MLB and NFL owners who have the players over a barrel in contract negotiations. I have no personal preference for which sport he should pursue. The kid should do what will make him happy. There is no doubt that baseball offers a longer and healthier career. However, there is no guarantee he will make it to the majors to make the big money. See Michael Jordan and Tim Tebow. A quarterback signed in the first round normally receives a big pay check right away and some guaranteed money. With all that being said, A's fans should not fooled by all the media attention around Kyler Murray. From a baseball tool perspective, he is not Bo Jackson or even Deon Sanders. Murray at maybe 5-10, will at best be a .300 hitting 2nd baseman who can steal bases and score runs. He will not be hitting the ball 500 feet and driving in 125 runs a year. For that reason, I don't think the A's should spend any more money on Murray. Players like him are not one of a kind. What they should be doing is addressing the starting pitching problem. After signing Kris Davis to a one year contract reflective of his talent and production, starting pitching is their biggest weakness. I agree that losing Lucroy at the catching position will be a down grade this year. He provided a solid every day presence behind the plate. Given the transient nature of the starting pitching staff, a solid veteran catcher is a must for a team like the A's. At the end of the day, in my opinion, Billy Beane should be replaced. He is not the guy with the vision and influence with other teams to get the A's to the next level. If the goal is to be competitive every year and go home early in September, he has clearly shown that he can do that. If the A's want to beat teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Astro's in the playoffs, they need to spend more money to build up the talent on the roster. In addition, hire a bright young gun in that general manager position who can wheel and deal with teams with undiscovered talent. The Billy Ball days brought no championships and are way over.

Posted by GPatton on 01/16/2019 at 4:07 PM

Re: “A’s Swing for the Fences at Howard Terminal

Time for 25% of all those new condos to belong to the currently homeless. I don't see why the top floors wouldn't do. Building monuments to materialistic inequality is irritating and backwards. We demand that housing the homeless be a priority and will monkey wrench any plans that do not include the homeless. I fully support verticality and the parking can be worked out. See New York City or any other large City. It's funny how the Yuppy Nimby anti-verticality people act like it has never been done SUCCESSFULLY before. Homeless are the first priority though as they are who are most in need.

Posted by Frank Snapp on 12/06/2018 at 9:04 AM

Re: “A’s Swing for the Fences at Howard Terminal

What he said.

The transportation issues alone are likely overwhelming. Put the money into the Coliseum site, both sides of the freeway.

Posted by Mike Bradley on 12/03/2018 at 10:02 AM

Re: “A’s Swing for the Fences at Howard Terminal

I've been saying for decades now that the A's should move to the waterfront, just like the Giants did in SF. Jack London Square and the environs will be transformed, the stadium will be beautiful, and fans will love to go see the A's...that is, if Billy Beane will stop compulsively getting rid of players every week or so!

Posted by Marcy Sheiner on 11/29/2018 at 8:50 PM

Re: “A’s Swing for the Fences at Howard Terminal

Modern American culture is under relentless sensory assault promulgated by the takeover of social media in our lives. We are in a continual pursuit of the next huge viral thing. That thing can be a so called "video personality" with a big ass, a sports star like Zion Williams at Duke or even a new baseball stadium. Williams was being touted as the next Lebron james after less than 10 games as a college freshman. Only last week when he and Duke were humbled by a loss to Gonzaga and the emergence of a player named Hachimura, with obviously better basketball skills than Williams, did people begin to pump the brakes. The same can be said for the new A's jewel ballpark. Dave Kaval and the A's have hit it big out of the box. This project proposes to develop not one, but both the Howard Terminal and the Coliseum sites. The architectural renderings are both impressive and forward thinking in accounting for the rise in water levels in the bay and providing tech offices, open space and affordable housing. The local politicians all gathered together for the news conference and could barely contain themselves. However, instead of jumping on the bandwagon just yet, I urge the public to pump your collective brakes until the A's come forward with some details. First of all, how do you get there? The new A's baseball stadium has NO parking. There is no parking within a mile and a half of the Howard Terminal site. Kaval projects that they will build gondolas over I-880 and the railroad tracks to bring 6,000 fans per game to the stadium. In addition, a new pedestrian bridge will be needed for the hearty souls who have to walk. These are not inexpensive infrastructure projects to accomplish. The permitting process alone from Cal Trans and the Railroad companies to traverse their right of ways could take years. Patrons were recently stuck in the air at Knowland Park Zoo when the gondola up to the restaurant malfunctioned. What great memories fans could get from being stuck over I-880 on the way to an A's game. This is supposed to be a privately financed stadium, but the infrastructure alone to get people there will be very expensive. In concept, development proposed at the Coliseum would subsidize the ballpark costs. However, last time I checked, public open space and parks do not generate a lot of revenue. Kaval and the A's present a pretty picture, but there are no numbers, not even rough estimates of what the bottom line costs will be for this project. My initial skepticism was not made better by the last minute announcement of the community meeting to discuss the project today, November 29th. That is one day after the first big media public announcement. If your neighbor needs a permit to build a fence that is too tall, the City gives you a 10 day notice. Hey Kaval, how much public input do you really expect with a 1 day notice? Let me be clear, I am an A's fan who is still pissed with Jerry Brown for killing the A's Fox theater ballpark project in Uptown. I want a new park that works for everyone. However, I don't want MLB's desire for the waterfront ballpark TV money shot to drive the project. It is selection of the right site, not the design that should be the priority in making the decision. The best site needs to be superior from a fiscal, regional transportation and economic development perspective. A good architect can design an attractive stadium anywhere. Based on past performance, I am not convinced that the local politicians are astute enough to understand the distinction.

Posted by GPatton on 11/29/2018 at 5:06 PM

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