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Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

Obviously Mr Halberstadt, you have no clue about what is needed for substance dependency problems. I'd respectfully like to suggest that you leave your do-gooding in that realm to those with experience. Else what happens become at best ineffective or as I mentioned previously (and you eluded to) a scam sucking desperately needed help away, often facilitated by self serving politicians operating their own version of Tammany Hall.

While the paid recovery industry sometimes suggests 12-step self-help (free meetings), many use those free meetings, and other forms of free resource all by themselves without ever touching the paid side of that world. Yes, some have to work at recovery for years to achieve basic stability... It's the nature of the beast.

I don't think anyone would even begin to suggest the problems of substance use and abuse aren't complex and highly individual and as such not really amenable to a simplistic solutions.

The cries about "coercive intervention!" were first heard in California long ago under Reagan (then governor) resulting in people being tossed into unfunded, non-existent community facilities... In effect, homeless into the streets. The genesis of the visible homeless crisis.

What we see now in the existing camps, isn't organized community and it's fairly obvious never will be. Nor will a semi-permanent campgrounds be.

The problems of "affordable housing" are almost equally difficult. It takes money to buy land and materials and pay laborers to build housing at any level of value. Oakland, as a community, has not enough... As a community, does almost nothing to encourage that money be invested here... When existing businesses here can almost guarantee they WILL be the target of expensive reconstruction and repairs when crypto-anarchists take to the streets smashing and defacing them... When new construction is destroyed by arson, not once but twice in less than a year. When community "activists"
obstruct new construction, not because no set aside for affordable housing isn't made, but because what is set aside isn't "premium".

Which brings us right back to a community that tolerates these behaviors, that re-elects pocket dictators over and over, that "doesn't snitch" and want's instant solutions for long festering problems, throwing out anyone who doesn't kowtow their demands.

While it may feel good to immediately provide for physical needs, without a long term recovery plans, all that happens it to open a deep hole in which to endlessly pour resources making it more difficult to provide any the of services needed.

When we say "Fire the bureaucrats and social workers" we eliminate the on-the-firing-line people needed to do the hard work. Change doesn't "just happen" people paying their bills, working and living their lives do that hard work.

If people can't do those things, the work doesn't happen and change never happens. For people to do those things, they need to be paid.

We can demand unicorns, elves, fairies and money trees, but those aren't real. Quasi-libertarian suggestions are just another form bullying too.

Now, instead of bitching about how little we allocate for these problems, can someone show me where what money we have comes from and, maybe, suggest new sources?

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 06/02/2017 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

What sort of "treatment" are you talking about, Mr. Ferrell? Institutionalization? The endless merry-go-round of 12-step meetings touted by the "recovery" industry? As I already wrote, "Problems that involve drug use or mental illness are complex, and any solutions are sure to be controversial -- if the implicit issues can ever be settled, and if truly effective and universally accepted 'treatment' even exists."

Meanwhile, we face two immediate crises: the metastasizing spread of tent encampments throughout Oakland (especially in the flats), and the depletion of low-income housing. While these issues reflect urgent physical needs, we're misdirecting attention and diverting scarce resources to dubious (and potentially coercive) interventions in "homeless lives."

We need to approach these two crises with respect for those affected, rather than viewing them as helpless victims in need of dubious (and expensive) "services," or as pawns in a political game. A dedicated campground isn't a ghetto; it's a campground: a place for someone who's acquired a tent to pitch camp until he or she either commits to a nomadic existence (in whatever locale seems most suitable and hospitable), or sets his/her sights on another way of life. At least it's an alternative to "criminalization."

As for "teaching them to fish"? These days, those who'd "teach them to fish" would typically charge a licensing fee for the gear, and demand a royalty on every fish they caught (which would, in turn, fund the training and salaries of new "teachers"). Instead, how's about giving them a rod and reel; ingenuity (and talking to others on the pier [i.e., seeking out wisdom and making connections]) should take care of the rest.

This ain't rocket science! Fire the bureaucrats and social workers, and provide for real, physical needs.

We need to develop housing for THOUSANDS of people (and set aside a place where they can camp out in the meantime, especially those who've burned all their bridges to friends who might otherwise help). Instead, we inflict encampments on neighborhoods of the housed while we build a "navigation center" designed to "connect them with services" -- but that can actually house only 150!

150? That would be a joke, if it weren't such a scandal. That's where we end up when, instead of focusing on immediate, practical problems -- the actual crisis that we face -- we become mired in trying to reshape other people's lives.

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 06/01/2017 at 11:57 PM

Re: “City of Oakland ‘Bulldozer’ Hit A Homeless Man While He Was Sleeping In A Tent

Thank you for writing this, Nick. It's clear to me that the City of Oakland is not doing it's due diligence to take care of its citizens, and in this case was egregious in their misconduct. It's clear that a tent with a person and their belongings inside isn't garbage.

What I have seen is that most encampment residents work hard to out all the garbage in one place, and that the city has not been collecting garbage from the camps. Imagine if the city didn't pick up your household waste for weeks...it's an unimaginable nightmare that the city has seen before during strikes.

Get it together, Oakland. Treat residents kindly and fairly and utilize the city services to help rather than harm.

Posted by Nanci Armstrong-Temple on 06/01/2017 at 10:47 PM

Re: “City of Oakland ‘Bulldozer’ Hit A Homeless Man While He Was Sleeping In A Tent

Well, Valerie, I guess this IS trash collection. How is it that the trash became so intermixed into the personal effects of the inhabitants that it became easy to mistake one from another? I know if someone came by and dumped garbage on MY living area, I'd either shift my living area so that it's clear illegally dumped stuff isn't mine or move the illegally dumped stuff doesn't mingle with what's mine. Naaaa... Let's just blame some hypothetical person. It's SO much easier.

Have you ever watched a fully loaded cart being used to haul stuff down the street? A truly amazing tribute to human endeavor. Humans have been using muscle power and minimal "machines" to move fairly large loads for thousands of years.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 06/01/2017 at 10:03 PM

Re: “City of Oakland ‘Bulldozer’ Hit A Homeless Man While He Was Sleeping In A Tent

Where are the inhabitants supposed to put the trash from the encampment if there is no regular trash collection? And it's not clear that some of it isn't illegal dumping by people taking advantage of the unsupervised nature of the areas where the encampments are. If you look at the stuff, lots of the bulky items are things the people in the encampments could not have carried there.

Posted by Valerie Winemiller on 06/01/2017 at 9:04 PM

Re: “Oakland Officials Question Police Partnerships with Federal Immigration Agents and FBI

Libby and the Oakland City Council need to take immediate action to keep ICE out of Oakland. They would not allow a federal agency to come terrorize Mountclarions, so they should leave the backdoor open for these bullies to come in and harass and arrest immigrants and POC. LIbby and and Annie say, they are all about justice and fairness, time to put your policies where you say your values are.

Posted by Ann Nomura on 06/01/2017 at 7:40 PM

Re: “City of Oakland ‘Bulldozer’ Hit A Homeless Man While He Was Sleeping In A Tent

Lets see... 160 cubic yards (to use the smallest figure quoted). What can that mean? It could mean a debris field about 3 feet deep, 3 feet wide and 18 feet long. That's a hell of a lot of trash accumulated in one location! I doubt it was really that compact, but we can set that aside for now.

What are the implications of this? Hmmm... Home for vermin? (rats, mice, roaches and any other disease ridden creepy crawlies we can think of in an urban environment). Sound like anything you want anyone living around? Not me.

How about just simple paper and other burnable junk... Had some fires that wiped out a tent city recently, didn't we? People hurt? Wonder how that happened, huh?

As to the use of industrial equipment to clear it... How many back breaking human (expensive) man hours would it take to clean it otherwise? Yeah, the equipment operators need to be a LOT more careful but it's disingenuous to paint this as anything but what needs to be done.

Since all the "stuff" didn't accumulate itself, it's equally clear the inhabitants aren't doing much to clear it themselves.

I don't have a good solution, but more care needs to be taken on the part of all parties.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 06/01/2017 at 5:47 PM

Re: “A New Oakland A's Ballpark: Our Writer Looks At The Good, The Bad, And The Unknown Of Three Rumored Sites

@Bruce Ferrell

Your comment is short sighted at best. The A's have committed to a privately financed stadium now for a while. Yes, they will get some support re land and infrastructure that will benefit the ENTIRE CITY.

The stadium has the chance to reinvigorate the city and CREATE jobs and tax revenue and be a source of civic pride. The city needs to expand it's tax base, and a new A's stadium in a location that can draw in the casual sports fan creates a ripple effect in the source of tax collars that help all of the issues that you listed above. While I've yet to see an official report, my guess is a ballpark in HT would generate far more jobs (restaurants, stadium employees, construction to improve transport from BART to the park) than would be lost at the port. It's not like new port companies are lining up to use HT...

Posted by Damon M on 06/01/2017 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Berkeley To Consider Banning Plastic Straws

Hey Carl, crawl back in your Trump Hole

Posted by Vincent Blafard on 06/01/2017 at 10:39 AM

Re: “A New Oakland A's Ballpark: Our Writer Looks At The Good, The Bad, And The Unknown Of Three Rumored Sites

I'd go for the Laney College site. Real inner City location. Great pedestrian and transit access. Great views of Lake Merritt. Shared use by Laney College students.

Posted by bayarched98 on 06/01/2017 at 10:06 AM

Re: “A New Oakland A's Ballpark: Our Writer Looks At The Good, The Bad, And The Unknown Of Three Rumored Sites

Go A's! You can have some of my tax money if you need it.

Posted by John Seal on 06/01/2017 at 9:06 AM

Re: “A New Oakland A's Ballpark: Our Writer Looks At The Good, The Bad, And The Unknown Of Three Rumored Sites

I'm happy if the A's build a stadium with private money. Not one penny of public money, property, or tax rebates is to be involved.

Posted by Ernest Montague on 06/01/2017 at 8:22 AM

Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

Hey Mitchell Halberstadt... "...a neighborhood of their own". Isn't that called a ghetto by classic definition?

And Mr Cervantes, I came up and out those streets and populations. That's why I mentioned trying it for yourself. I did.

We're dealing with people suffering from mental and emotional difficulties... Yeah, I like difficulties better than problems. Many have been there for decades. Yes, some lost jobs and were evicted and/or were priced out. A lot more are there because of their "difficulties", and yet again, there is NO MONEY in Oakland for services for them, Anything that would bring in money is decried as gentrification.

Evictions are really the least of the problem, but it IS smugly satisfying to point that finger. Zero tolerance isn't an answer either. That just means criminalizing not being able to maintain.

Treatment is paramount... Not the half-baked type of thing that recently burned down on San Pablo Avenue. Had that been correctly run and supervised, the cause of the fire would not have been needed (candles). The fire control system would have been insisted upon by the "operator" from the property owner; mandated by city inspection of a treatment facility.

No, that was a scam shepherded by city council members to fleece needy people of what little they had while providing little more than a dangerous roof and an opportunity for "Tammany Hall" council members to make political points and reward neighborhood cronies.

Once treatment happens, then training/education needs to happen. Teach them to fish...

Until then, all that is being done is to "distribute fish"... Until the fish run out.

It takes money to do those things. Money that Oakland has been wasting for decades while slowing bleeding to death and self serving crypto-anarchists/activists trash the streets, driving businesses out.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 06/01/2017 at 7:53 AM

Re: “A New Oakland A's Ballpark: Our Writer Looks At The Good, The Bad, And The Unknown Of Three Rumored Sites

This is ridiculous. NO public money for professional sports in Oakland/Alameda county!

Not until crime, unemployment and infrastructure is dealt with should things like even be entertained.

Locations that impact neighborhoods (Laney), Jobs (the port) have no business being talked about.

Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 06/01/2017 at 7:19 AM

Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

I disagree with Alice Marshall on one point: she says, "What would not be allowed is to live permanently in a temporary camp." The point of setting up a dedicated campground is to accommodate a nomadic population (of tent dwellers) at a location off our streets -- not necessarily to channel everyone into indoor housing. The issues to be addressed involve land use in existing neighborhoods, and developing sufficient low-income housing to meet local demand -- with minimum intervention into people's lives.

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 06/01/2017 at 6:23 AM

Re: “'Homeless Lives Matter Too??': People Sleeping On Oakland's Streets Still Waiting For Government Response To Growing East Bay Crisis

The Mayor only cares about the real estate developers and the tech companies. When all those shiny new condos get built next to homeless camps then maybe we'll see some response...but it will probably be in the form of arrests, ticketing, and dismantling of the camps. The homeless folks will move on to another location. And the way things are going here in Oakland, many more will join their ranks.

Posted by Vincent Blafard on 05/31/2017 at 2:26 PM

Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

After attending last night's City Council meeting, I'll double down on my attempt to address the two crises of spreading street encampments and a lack of housing. Both of these involve pressing physical needs, yet we misdirect attention and divert scarce resources by focusing on interventions in "homeless lives." We need to approach these issues directly, as a matter of problem-solving -- with respect for those involved, rather than viewing them as helpless victims in need of dubious (and expensive) "services," or as pawns in a political game.

We need to fight evictions, zealously enforce rent control, and develop housing for THOUSANDS of people (and a neighborhood of their own where they can camp out in the meantime), not to inflict encampments on neighborhoods of the housed while we build a "navigation center" designed to "connect the homeless with services" that can house 150!

150? That would be a joke, if it weren't such a scandal -- and so sad!

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 05/31/2017 at 10:40 AM

Re: “Oakland Expends Considerable Money and Person-Power Displacing Homeless Residents, According to City Records

I agree with Mitchell Halberstadt. It's unacceptable for people to simply set up camp wherever they please. The situation that exists in Oakland with homeless camps popping up everywhere, or people living in their cars wherever they want, and negatively impacting housed people and neighborhoods, is unacceptable. Squat camps are turning areas of the city into filthy slums. On the other hand, it's also not acceptable to prohibit sleeping anywhere at all, and to make it impossible for the homeless to exist in the city. I believe that the solution to the homeless problem is in cities working with state and federal governments to create both indoor shelters and some campgrounds as temporary residences for the state's homeless.

It's not ideal to not be able to provide permanent housing for every single person who needs it, but if cities could provide free housing for everyone who asked for it, why would anyone bother to work? Rather than focus on getting ideal housing for a few, I would say the focus should be on spending money to create designated shelters and camps for all the homeless. Instead of spending money on permanent housing for a few lucky "lottery winners", raise the quality of life for all these homeless and protect neighborhoods and housed residents at the same time by setting up sufficient temporary shelters/camps to house all.

Instead of being "moved along", allowing the homeless to be a serial nuisance in one place after another, the homeless --including those living in vehicles on public streets -- could be driven to an existing shelter or campground -- both would ideally have parking lots for limited temporary car camping. Anyone setting up camp where camping isn't permitted should either be taken to a sanctioned camp or shelter, or have their property confiscated and disposed of. They would be given help to find permanent housing. If local permanent housing could not be found for them within a certain amount of time, they would be given an option of taking housing wherever it could be found, perhaps in another city or state, or else leaving Oakland. What would not be allowed is to live permanently in a temporary camp, or to set up a tent on public land wherever they please.

Posted by Alice Marshall on 05/31/2017 at 8:03 AM

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Re: “Berkeley To Consider Banning Plastic Straws

There are straws made from compostable plastic these days. I'm not sure how quickly they biodegrade if they become litter

Posted by Omar Yacoubi on 05/30/2017 at 2:58 PM

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