“Feminist theory has generally been on the side of non-violence, yet few would contest the idea that self-defense sometimes does require force.” That claim begins the premise for “Violence \ Non-Violence,” a public conversation between seminal theorists Jacqueline Rose and Judith Butler on October 16, from 4–6 p.m. at UC Berkeley. Butler is a Maxine Elliot Professor in Comparative Literature and Critical Theory at Cal, and is recognized for her influential writing on gender. Rose is a professor at the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities at the University of London, and is known for her writing on feminism, psychoanalysis, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Together, they will attempt to parse the ethical and political distinctions of aggression, force, and violence and outline a relationship between physical and psychological violence. Then, they will begin to situate those questions within the feminist and psychoanalytic discourse. On October 15 from 5–7 p.m., in the same location, Rose will also give a lecture called “Feminism and the Abomination of Violence,” which will, in part, explore the ways in which Hannah Arendt and Melanie Klein placed violence at the core of their work.