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    <author><![CDATA[Clay Sh]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Well, Approval Voting is a vastly better voting system than Instant Runoff Voting. You can see in Bayesian Regret calculations that IRV is generally the worst of the five commonly proposed Alternative Voting Systems:<br>
<a href="http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ScoreVoting.net/BayRegsFig.html</a><br>
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Approval Voting is much simpler (uses an ordinary ballot, but just removes the one-candidate limit — so you can vote for as many candidates as you want).
        
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      <![CDATA[This is not about 2010, it's about 2014. This isn't about Quan, this is about ensuring voter hear the nuances between candidates in elections with a myriad of similar candidates.
        
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      <![CDATA[Good article. Another specious argument always put forth by the anti-RCV crowd is that (as in the Oakland example), Perata "got the most votes".
        
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      <![CDATA[@SteveC: Thank you for correcting my wording about the votes. However, the conclusion is not altered.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Mr. Pine: "All of Jean Quan's votes, from those who listed her first to those who simply filled out their list of three with her name, added up to 44 percent of the voters." Actually, that's not true.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Mr. Walker: RCV would not have caused Ralph Nader to be elected, even if he were everyone's second choice, and even if we used national RCV to elect the President. With only 2.74% of the vote (see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000#National_results" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States&hellip;</a>), he would have been eliminated along with the rest of the minor party and independent candidates.
        
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      <![CDATA[@JimL: There was no head to head race between Perata and Quan nor any other pair of candidates. RCV calculations are not a race.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Mr. Pine: Even if your numbers are correct, it doesn't mean much. Since Perata instructed his voters to bullet vote, it artificially reduced Quan's #2 and #3 votes.
        
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      <![CDATA[I saw this on the Internet, so I am not sure if it is a story or an op-ed piece. It certainly reads like an op-ed.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Gerry Divens]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Tramutola's "academy" is a scam to avoid paying its workers a decent wage. Just another way Larry and his side-kick Dan make sure that, win or lose, they walk away with their own pockets stuffed with money.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Daniel Weinzveg]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If you are interested in become a "Tramutola Disciple," please visit <a href="http://tolacademy.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tolacademy.org</a>.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Ron Goom]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Quan and Perata each had their strengths, weaknesses, and blindspots. That's what they were ready to take to the mayor's office.
        
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      <![CDATA[So Perata and his boy Tramatola want to go back to the old way? Of course!
        
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      <![CDATA[All of Jean Quan's votes, from those who listed her first to those who simply filled out their list of three with her name, added up to 44 percent of the voters. When someone winds up with less than a majority, she lacks a mandate to govern - and when she demonstrates in her first year that she is incapable of governing, city government is left with no legitimacy.<br>
        
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