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      <![CDATA[Thanks for the story and the serious comments. If you look at the Bay Area News Group website's list of the most highly paid Bay Area public employees,  police and fire overwhelmingly dominate when you remove the doctors.
        
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      <![CDATA[If true, bdenson, that doesn't surprise me. Pete expected that winning would very tough. Civil rights violations are very difficult to prove in court.
        
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      <![CDATA[czech, the firefighters make the same argument. Given that the cost of benefits for both police officers and firefighters are over 50%, paying 1.5 times for overtime SEEMS a bargain.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bob-  Just so you know, the federal judge issued a Summary Judgment in favor of the City on this case this morning. Apparently Pete did not have much of a case.
        
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      <![CDATA[I only want to address the issue of police overtime. The police department is short staffed and now there are complaints about overtime.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bob, <br>
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Thanks. That was the link I was missing.
        
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      <![CDATA[As I understand it, Yoyo g, the fees that club owners and event organizers pay for police overtime get earmarked by the city to pay for that overtime. <br>
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For example, if OPD says an event organizer has to pay $10,000 for police OT, the organizer pays the city that amount, and then OPD uses it to pay the cops for the OT they put in at the event.<br>
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Now, in addition to complaints that OPD is overstaffing these events because they don't have to justify their costs to anyone, some club owners and event organizers also complain that the cops don't actually work the whole event but are paid as if they do nonetheless.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bob,<br>
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You have now convinced me that this smells. Thanks for the review.
        
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      <![CDATA[Bob, I believe Mr. Baker is an Assistant to the City Administrator, not the Assistant City Administrator. <br>
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From the standpoint of the Oakland taxpayer, I believe that club owners, or any business owner for that matter, should pony up if his/her business is causing an undue burden.
        
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      <![CDATA[No doubt, Lawngun, but it seems pretty clear that there has to be some oversight of the process.
        
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      <![CDATA[Perhaps the current procedures need some fine tuning and leave room for potential abuse, but the police certainly do need some latitude in setting the level of service required for various events. Girl scout fun run vs. rap concert.
        
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      <![CDATA[Yoyo g,<br>
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Let's review the undisputed facts that the Express has revealed so far:<br>
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1. In early October 2008, Dellums declares that the city is cutting back dramatically on excessive police overtime.<br>
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      <![CDATA[What's the history of corruption? Riders was dismissed, no? There are good cops and bad cops everywhere.
        
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      <![CDATA[Regardless of whether or not Officers Morse and Thomas are padding their bank accounts with overtime, I find it deeply troubling that (to paraphrase Pete) they "issue the permit; set the criteria; give you the number of cops and also tell you the price." There need to be rules governing this process, and if such rules already exist, they need to be communicated to the public.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think he's trying to imply that the officer is some sort of overtime junkie-slash-extortionist in general. Although possibly true, I'm not buying it yet.
        
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      <![CDATA[Also, if Geofrrey Pete closed his club in early 09, what is the relevance of you reporting overtime earned in 2010? What does this have to do with Geoffrey Pete?
        
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      <![CDATA[I want to add, though: The story seems to try to imply a causal link between the one officer's large amount of overtime pay on the one hand and his demands that these establishments pay for overtime, on the other. But actually, the officer would get the overtime pay whether or not he requested (demanded, or whatever) overtime funds from these vnues.
        
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      <![CDATA[The big "IF" is very doubtful. Out of curiosity did you interview the officers involved?
        
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      <![CDATA[Pete should just hire Damien Winslow Security, I N C.<br>
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Seriously: Good reporting on this. If all true, this certainly doesn't pass the smell test.
        
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