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Re: “Oakland Takes First Step Toward Embracing Urban Agriculture

yoyo_guru - let's just agree to disagree on the question of eggs being healthful. :) We have no nutritional requirement for the eggs of birds; all of the nutrients we need are in plants (and in the case of B12 - bacteria - since that's what B12 grows on). So, are they necessary? No. Will some people argue they're healthful? Yes. Will I? No. :)

But again - thank you for your thoughtfulness, and good luck to you on your journey!

Posted by animaladvocate on 06/16/2011 at 12:15 PM

Re: “Oakland Takes First Step Toward Embracing Urban Agriculture

yoyo_guru - Thanks so much for your thoughtfulness. I think the problem is that there's a perception that being vegan is an end in itself rather than a means to an end. For me, being vegan is about doing everything we can to not cause harm when we have the chance to do so. And we have so many opportunities to make compassionate choices. However, we live in an imperfect world, and being vegan is not about being perfect (For instance, I feed my obligate carnivore cats meat. I'm not convinced they can thrive with supplemented vegan food.) And yet there is much we CAN do.

As to the age-old chicken question. For me, it's really about intention. I don't believe animals should be classified as livestock, allowing people to have hens for their eggs. I also don't think the consumption of chicken's eggs is necessary or healthful. However, if someone has a rescued hen (like the quail you mentioned or hens as "pets") who because she's female happens to drop her eggs and someone wants to eat them, then I agree, it's not an ETHICAL issue for me. If the hen is there as a pet, that means they'll love her and care for her until she dies vs. someone having a hen BECAUSE she lays eggs and thus will discard her once her reproductive cycle slows down. What usually happens in that case is they're slaughtered and replaced with new hens. You simply cannot have a slaughter-free animal agriculture system. See the difference?

I hope my 2 cents makes sense. :)

Posted by animaladvocate on 06/16/2011 at 12:06 PM

Re: “Oakland Takes First Step Toward Embracing Urban Agriculture

Thanks to the planning commission who recognized the many reasons animals should not be part of urban agriculture and separated them out from this first phase. Thanks especially to Commissioner Michael Colbruno who vocalized his deep concern last night about people who are already killing animals in Oakland (people like Carpenter) and emphatically stated for the record that he believes animals should not fall under urban agriculture. Last night's vote was a great victory for PLANT-BASED urban agriculture and a great victory for those of us who believe any discussion of animals should not come from a "food policy" proposal.

Posted by animaladvocate on 06/16/2011 at 11:30 AM

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