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Re: “BART's Broken Promise

It is not the perfect solution, but let's see the pros and cons.

Pros

1. $409 cheaper to implement. $409 is a lot of money no matter how you look at it. 48% of the cost when compared to traditional BART system means that it is a 52% saving, or less than half the cost of the alternative.

2. New trains! The existing BART trains are really getting old.

3. Ready by 2015 instead of who knows when. Does anyone know when BART will get to San Jose? Not by 2015 for sure. The Fremont-Warm Spring extension will come online in 2014, which means that BART won't even be out of Fremont, let alone reaching any part of San Jose, in another 4 years.


Cons

1. One transfer at the Pittsburg / Bay Point station that takes 3 minutes. In reality, even if traditional BART train were used to go all the way to Antioch, there would still be a stop at the Pittsburg / Bay Point station that takes about 20 seconds, so the net additional time is 2 minutes 40 seconds. The time savings in not having to drive that 10 miles of highway 4 easily exceed the transfer time. At any case, this sort of transfer arrangement with synchronized train schedules has been proven to work in Oakland.

2. There is a bit of an inconvenience to have to switch train.

Posted by tom12345 on 10/29/2010 at 8:31 PM

Re: “BART's Broken Promise

It is not the perfect solution, but let's see the pros and cons.

Pros

1. $409 cheaper to implement. $409 is a lot of money no matter how you look at it. 48% of the cost when compared to traditional BART system means that it is a 52% saving, or less than half the cost of the alternative.

2. New trains! The existing BART trains are really getting old.

3. Ready by 2015 instead of who knows when. Does anyone know when BART will get to San Jose? Not by 2015 for sure. The Fremont-Warm Spring extension will come online in 2014, which means that BART won't even be out of Fremont, let alone reaching any part of San Jose, in another 4 years.


Cons

1. One transfer at the Pittsburg / Bay Point station that takes 3 minutes. In reality, even if traditional BART train were used to go all the way to Antioch, there would still be a stop at the Pittsburg / Bay Point station that takes about 20 seconds, so the net additional time is 2 minutes 40 seconds. The time savings in not having to drive that 10 miles of highway 4 easily exceed the transfer time. At any case, this sort of transfer arrangement with synchronized train schedules has been proven to work in Oakland.

2. There is a bit of an inconvenien

Pros

1. $409 cheaper to implement. $409 is a lot of money no matter how you look at it. 48% of the cost when compared to traditional BART system means that it is a 52% saving, or less than half the cost of the alternative.

2. New trains! The existing BART trains are really getting old.

3. Ready by 2015 instead of who knows when. Does anyone know when BART will get to San Jose? Not by 2015 for sure. The Fremont-Warm Spring extension will come online in 2014, which means that BART won't even be out of Fremont, let alone reaching any part of San Jose, in another 4 years.
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Posted by tom12345 on 10/29/2010 at 8:29 PM

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