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Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

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Posted by Margaret Chiffriller on 01/16/2017 at 11:45 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

I moved here a decade ago and am black. I also have neighbors who have historical roots in this community. From all racial backgrounds. And many of the black community were here during the periods when employment existed in the rail yards and Port of Oakland.

While I don't agree with the vandalized style the fence was taken down, I am far from surprised that it occurred.

First the closing of the Recycler without a response to serve the poorer residents. When you leave something sitting, without designing it to completion and not continuously engaging the ENTIRE community and including those activating the Plaza to resolve problems, this is what can happen.

All you have to do is look at who lives in these encampments to measure who is being effected. Promises to engage with nothing coming back to the table.

The one thing most wanted gone is the crime and drug use going on in the Plaza, along neighboring Filbert Streets and Brockhurst Street where there is a senior center and Youth Center within a block from the Plaza. Many of the neighboring activities which are serving the community are the anthesis of activities going on in the Plaza

What's unfortunate is there is no Adult Center because the age group between senior and youth appears to be ignored.

I actually like the Black Joy idea but don't think it should to be just racially motivated. If that was related to Dr King's Day, I am not surprised. The challenges in this community are about poverty across the racial spectrum. Everyone in this community including new residents understand this. It is clear that the people suffering most of these injustices are residents of a predominately black and impoverished community, with higher indices of unemployment and other opportunities.

And weekly cleaning that include defecation not to mention the hundreds of used needles from overwhelming addiction in this community. The Plaza was abused when it was open on so many levels that these discussions, which were inclusive and open to the public were intended to redesign the Plaza and try to get those who brazenly did whatever they wanted to do, with blatant disregard for EVERYONE ELSE. No matter who they were or what group they represented.

Serving JOY for the benefit of ALL PEOPLE within the Community isn't a bad idea, especially if the goal is to bring healthy alternatives to the Plaza and change the environments that remove crime (drug dealing) and behaviors that brought more police action to that little parklet and plagued a community for several decades; long before the gentrification occurred this was here and continues to be here.

Children here need more also; McClymonds just won the State championship and turning around the crime and drug use, dumping and ignoring the for JOY isn't truly a bad thing. But it should be done right.

Long time black residents want these eradicated also. When you have less of this, as one of the elders on Filbert Street told me 'you can't have officer involved shootings when you can keep the police away from the community; keep the crime out and the police don't have to spend tons of time here'.

No one wants their children and family exposed to these behaviors. Black, Hispanic, Asian or White.

Once again, a failure to focus and complete goals to serve the community's needs, serves to embarrass the City. We have folks sleeping under overpasses here. Of course a group of people who are activated to do something to change the subject was and is brewing.

I think the focus should shift the blame from the community. There are those in position who should be working with all of the residents: those who acted and those who want change and to bring everyone to the table.

The divisive nature of this is unnecessary, when all in the community want outcomes not dissimilar. The activists and the residents. In my opinion, that's an exclusive community that recognizes the needs of the poor and under-served and longtime disenfranchised and balances it with the growth and development for change that includes affordable housing and jobs, is what needs mending.

Posted by Carol Wyatt on 01/16/2017 at 11:20 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

Reality check: The residences who work and pay rent to live in a crime infested hell hole, invested time and energy in obtaining that fence to drive junkies, thieves, and low lifes away from where their children play.

Now entitled journalist who think more about movember than about hour by hour hardships of impoverished youth move to celebrate this vandalism of hope as some kind of social justice victory.

Is it any wonder that people are disavowing cultural Marxists at every turn?

Posted by Dee Ceeover on 01/16/2017 at 11:16 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

Typical EBX drivel.(Identity Politics) This corner park has been a serious health and safety threat for years, and you know it. Drug dealing, defecation and unhealthy sanitary conditions. I am happy the city is finally doing something about it, I encourage development. Oakland needs to continue to encourage new massive infill market rate development. Maybe EBX should join forces with Indy Bay and safe us all from.....How about setting up camp in front of the home of one of Wells Fargo's board of trustee's. Some of them live here too.

Posted by jay mac on 01/16/2017 at 10:16 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I've heard the "diversity of tactics" so many times before. It's code for property destruction. I can see taking over space, or blocking a roadway for a period of time. But the babies who want to smash windows and light things on fire should be exposed and ejected by the group.

Posted by Rob Walker on 01/16/2017 at 8:57 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

The article also mentions plans for the park's "renovation, using a $456,000 grant, [that ostensibly] would transform the area into a welcoming space for all," but fails to discuss the current status of those plans. Isn't that the heart of the story -- even if a clique of self-appointed arbiters of "Black Joy" meanwhile have a plan of their own that they seek to impose on the neighborhood instead?

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 01/16/2017 at 8:41 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

If, indeed, "a group of neighbors had complained for years that the sliver of land was a magnet for illegal drug use and crime," why weren't any of them interviewed for this story? For that matter, those neighbors were evidently there for years: were all of them white? As neighbors (not to mention other passers-by) did they find that park intimidating?

A power play is a power play -- a battle for control (with conflicting cultural norms being weaponized by both sides). "Displacement" cuts both ways.

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 01/16/2017 at 8:26 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

@jerome funkhauser
your use of the phrase 'black joy' is disgusting.

Posted by Neck Stuffing on 01/16/2017 at 7:50 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

Good to see the plaza opened up again as it has been a bastion of black joy for decades. Drug use, prostitution, violence, public defecation and various other forms of black joy on display for the whole world to see.

Posted by Jerome Funkhauser on 01/16/2017 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I think you are understanding my point. There is no true clarity that Cat Brooks (or you?) is actually opposed to property damage. Nor is it clear that is she supportive of it.

Her lack of a call for property damage is, therefore, not an indicator of her support of lack of it. My call is for her to speak plainly about it.

If you trace back to your earlier postings, you said:

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"For the record: Neither I, nor APTP, have ever made a call for property damage."

hello.

what part of this is unclear?

some of the readers are playing stupid. cat made it crystal clear what the stance is on property damage.
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So, hello, you do see what is unclear. It is clear that she did not make a call for property damage. It remains unsaid and unclear exactly how she actually feels about it.

Up to her to make decide whether or not she actually wants to be clear or obfuscate. And, as I said, maybe there is no nuance here. Maybe, she is actually quite opposed to property damage. That would be nice.

Posted by Michael Good on 01/16/2017 at 5:24 PM

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Posted by David Flinch on 01/16/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

michael good also wrote:

Of course, causing death is not the same as property damage. But, you appear to have missed the point. Just because you do not call for an activity, does not mean you are against it. So, in war, just because you did not order the soldier to kill does not mean you are against the soldier killing. And, in Oakland, just because you did not call for property damage does not mean you are against it. Silence is not innocence.

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it is not that i've missed the point, it's that you've failed to make a sound one.

in ordering a sandwich, just because you did not ask for pickles does not mean that you hate pickles - nor does it mean you like pickles. it only means you didn't ask for them.

in oakland, just because you did not call for property damage doesn't mean that you are for it, either.

it's neither here nor there.

you're trying to force a confession to determine guilt of an imagined war criminal when there is no need to do so.

Posted by Michelle Metiche on 01/16/2017 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

michael good replied:

Come out and say it if you think any of these things are OK. Then tell us exactly what you and / or Brooks support."

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regarding the last part of your response, i have no obligation to tell you what i personally do or do not support. you're no authority to me, and this isn't an inquisition or a trial. i'm only responding to that which is available for both of us to read and react to - which is this piece written by cat brooks.

there is no way i can tell you what books supports. i'm not a mind reader, and neither are you. we are both reading what has been published in EBX.

Posted by Michelle Metiche on 01/16/2017 at 4:07 PM

Re: “Berkeley Social Club Is a Different Kind of Korean Restaurant

BTW, Pican's "Creole Spiced Bacon" is dead easy to make; I do it all the time at home. Didn't even need a recipe to figure that one out, LOL. We prefer it with a modest amt of brown sugar, we like our spicy bacon to taste balanced between sweet/salt and less like candied jerky.

Posted by Jean Komatsu 1 on 01/16/2017 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Oakland Congresswoman Barbara Lee To Boycott Trump Inauguration

Thank you Congresswoman Lee for standing up to an unprincipled, bigoted and immature individual by NOT attending the inauguration - we are a great country because of principled politicians like you!

Posted by Amy R. Booe on 01/16/2017 at 7:33 AM

Re: “Oakland Congresswoman Barbara Lee To Boycott Trump Inauguration

No one is going to miss you Barbara there.

Posted by Robert Hope on 01/15/2017 at 9:55 PM

Re: “Oakland Congresswoman Barbara Lee To Boycott Trump Inauguration

She's right on the nose with everything.

Posted by Donnell Moses on 01/15/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “Ambushed: Contra Costa County Law Enforcement Sets Up Surprise Stings To Help Federal Immigration Agents Arrest and Deport Immigrants

I missed the first two pages of this article. Is this author really defending three criminals? AND questioning "why in the world would local law enforcement work with ICE?" for these cases: Kim who has committed armed robbery and found with stolen goods over ten years later (who knows what else he's done in the last ten years); Jones who has put numerous other lives at risk by getting arrested for driving under the influence FOUR times (who knows how many times he's really driven under the influence and not caught); and Smith for Domestic violence.

And its law enforcement who is doing something wrong. Riiiiiiiightttt.........

Posted by JODY SMITH on 01/15/2017 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Adding a bit:

Thanks you for the correction on the quote. She did not say she that she had not made calls for violence. She only said she had not made calls for property damage.

And, correcting my own post, I meant to type "pretending that all is clear" but I inadvertantly type "pretending that almost clear"

Of course, causing death is not the same as property damage. But, you appear to have missed the point. Just because you do not call for an activity, does not mean you are against it. So, in war, just because you did not order the soldier to kill does not mean you are against the soldier killing. And, in Oakland, just because you did not call for property damage does not mean you are against it. Silence is not innocence.

So, let us know which form of destructive or harmful activities are condoned and which ones are not. And, if it is OK to cause harm for some and not others, how does that work?

Thank you.

Posted by Michael Good on 01/15/2017 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Top Commander Accused of Turning California National Guard Into ‘Criminal Syndicate’

It's worse than you can imagine. I personally have identified a number of people (not at all exclusive to SSO) that do not come to work, some for months at a time...but keep drawing a paycheck. So-called "soldiers" who openly refuse to go overseas but keep full-time jobs. Soldiers who are injured overseas and then sent home, only for the CAARNG to discharge them without medical separation! So-called "Soldiers" taking government vehicles (with their families driving and on-board, no less) to sporting events out of state. "Soldiers" and "airmen" retiring from active duty National Guard and then being hired in as effect civilian consultants for the same jobs they left. Guardsmen being told they will lose their full-time NG jobs if they dare to actual go into hostile combat...and when they come home, no job - while their colleagues who sat home still draw a paycheck and job. Shameful: fear of losing a job while others are losing life and limb, yet they use the words "selfless service" and "heroes." Absolutely appalling; convenient self-indoctrination.

Other superbly-qualified leaders and Soldiers are not retained on active duty in the CNG while those without the training, less experience, no active duty overseas time, and even those with letters of reprimand are not only retained but moved to new locations at government expense. When an imminently-qualified Guardsman applies for a tour or job with the California National Guard, if not one of the sycophants of the status-quo, his packet will be "lost" and never accepted for consideration; the same for promotions. Sometimes Soldiers are "not renewed" within months of retirement so others can keep jobs AFTER military retirements. So-called senior leaders who have NEVER been in the regular Army! Look at the General officers of the CAARNG and most senior leaders - they command Infantry units and pride themselves as Infantrymen yet NO combat time as Infantrymen; some have never even been awarded the job skill qualification. It may be legal, but absolutely not moral. Certainly the most qualified are not the ones selected for senior leadership, merely those politically-connected who avoid actual direct service.

These issues are usually clouded and explained as budget considerations; dedicated Soldiers and Airmen, both officer and enlisted, are often told their organization is being downsized due to budget constraints and their position goes away, yet within weeks multiple new bootlickers are hired, including relatives of the very ones who said there was no budget allotment.

Appalling, and this is YOUR National Guard. This is YOUR tax dollar being abused. I have many more examples and evidence of all...but no one will do a darn thing. Our properly-elected civilian leadership, not being of the military profession, do not which questions to ask or issues to explore. Inquiries solicit information from the very same praetorian guard protecting said corruption. The base fact is that many of the National Guard leadership (surely the culture) did not join for service; they joined to be pretend Soldiers, enjoying the reputation and benefits of professionals all while enabling their perception of self-importance.

Posted by Joshua McCorkendale on 01/15/2017 at 11:38 AM

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