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Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Interesting that the East Bay Express changed the title of this opinion piece -

from:

Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Vandalize or Become Violent

to:

Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Seems to me that East Bay Express has made a correction to reflect that Cat Brooks was so vague about vandalization. They must have realized she is not really coming out against vandalization - she seems to think it is OK. Remember, it was the "independent" protesters doing this anyway.

Very slick slight of hand by the editors..............

Posted by Michael Good on 01/14/2017 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I stand with Cat Brooks and the APTP.

Posted by Ann Swinburn on 01/13/2017 at 11:40 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

This reads like a lot of nifty phrases - "the people", "diversity of tactics", "the masses", "the struggle", etc. all pieced together to sound like quite the revolution. But, if you read it again, it becomes more clear that it is like gibberish.

The "movement?" What movement? Not described here. Cat Brooks seeks to "illuminate the clarity of our message" with no real description of what exactly the message is and who the people are behind "our."

She seems clear on who is protesting as part of the movement and who is not. No one else seems to be clear. The mobs that gather and wreak havoc - do the good ones have ID cards that say they are the real movement while those that are not the real movement are the bad ones. How can anyone know this?

Is ATPT a real thing with lots of members or participants or supporters that are clear on a message? Does ATPT have membership that can be the "we" that Cat Brooks referred to? Check out the website:

- no leaders or members identified. - "is a group of concerned and committed institutions, organizations and individuals" - none are actually identified to be members of this group
- seeks money
- is NOT not-for-profit
- seeks to end state sanctioned murder and violence against Black, Brown and Poor people. Gee, I did not know Jerry Brown sanctioned this! Or is it the Feds? Great buzzwords that make it sound like a vast conspiracy with some shadow group wanting to kill all these people. Really?
-writes and posts everything anonymously

Seems like this ATPT is nothing more than Cat Brooks trying to look like more than Cat Brooks.

I appreciate the clear and constructive thoughts from Kai Chang. Seek a way to do things differently. A way that will help send a clear message from fine, upstanding people that want things to be better. That want to be heard. Get press and publicity that will make people want to be more supportive.

Or, keep doing stupid things that create environments to be conducive to violence, blaming the bad on others, and facilitating people running amok in the night. Get bad press and publicity. Get less support than ever.

David Cohen's comment about the incoherence of a key paragraph is quite on point. One thing seems be clear - bodily harm (to protestors, not necessarily police) seems off limits and vandalism and property damage do not seem to be off limits.

For once, it would be nice if protesters stayed off the freeway so that no one gets killed or hurt. The "real" protesters can take photos of violent people and vandals and step up to identify them so the police can put them in jail. Protest their actions right there on the spot. After all, they are "independent" and not part of your deal.

Peaceful assembly please without excuses.

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Posted by HuNia Vinnetta Bradley on 01/13/2017 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Well, golly. If only we knew all it took was a nicely worded editorial to stop vandals from using well-meaning protests as cover for their crimes.

The really simple thing for protest organizers to do is to set a concrete end time for a protest/rally in the late afternoon, about an hour before sunset. By doing so, you'll have had the publicity you wanted: During the day you do have that impact of a civic action stopping business as usual. By being during the day, you can have more people participate, like seniors and children. You'll have finished in time to make the national news on the east coast. You'll give local west coast stations plenty of time to organize a report, for papers to cover it for the morning news. You'll have well-lit images for the cover stories and news leads.

Nothing good happens when protests go into the night -- it's too dark to get a good picture for the news, you won't get into the news until tomorrow, by which time the narrative from the vandalism may become the focus. Less regular citizens can participate (work/school/child obligations the next day). The only thing it does is give vandals and looters both crowds and the cover of darkness to perpetrate their crimes.

Posted by Kai Chang on 01/12/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

The right to protest is written into the constitution of the United States. Clearly it is an important part of what is considered democracy.

Cat Brooks has stated that she does not support and has actually taken a stand against the unnecessary vandalism of small businesses and stores during the demonstrations while supporting the people's right to resist.

Posted by Mama Ayanna Mashama on 01/12/2017 at 9:18 AM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Don't protest.

Organize.

Posted by David Madole on 01/12/2017 at 8:41 AM

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I'm sad from reading this story. I'm glad you mentioned the fact that in the last 8 years many people have been deported and the administration is not friendly to immigrants. Racial profiling seems to be alive and well in this country that really isn't so great! #StrictlyMyOpinion

Posted by Suzi Corby Foster on 01/12/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Wanted to say something slick and profound but can't come up with anything other than: Stop intentionally fucking up shit in downtown AND Oakland. Many OAKLAND businesses like mine are Owner Operated. It hurts us but the glass, security, insurance, and remediation companies make money when we don't. It takes time to recover after all this. Shit I gotta sale Triple the amount of Vibrators and Dildos to makeup for the proximity of destruction. You can't keep going up and down with momentum like this.

There is no recovery fund set aside by the City. There is nothing but the pumping of your arms to get going again. Feels like you need silicone lube just to feel at ease to do business here.

Posted by Nenna Feelmore Joiner on 01/12/2017 at 5:31 AM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I support you, Ms. Brooks, and I support the APTP! See you there, in peace and unity!

Posted by Bethany Meyer on 01/11/2017 at 9:47 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I ask the OPD and their covert operators to not seed demonstrations with provocateurs who are the ones who start the violence and then quickly disappear, letting the cops assault nonviolent protestors.

The vandalism that has plagued Oakland protests has been virtually always started by some white thugs, then blacks are attacks by the cops. And sometimes the cops attack nonwhites, of course. But the provocateurs are hired thugs. Not the demonstrators.

Posted by Tree Fitzpatrick on 01/11/2017 at 9:12 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

The vast majority of people in the Bay Area did not vote for Trump. Yet only a very small percentage of those people will participate in marches, general strikes or other demonstrations. The reasons are many and valid. And while we can pontificate endlessly, basically to ourselves, about violence or nonviolence, revolutionary vanguardism, etc., we actually spend very little time trying to reach the masses of people who are our allies. Here is an action that invites participation by EVERYONE. "Bang the Pots, Raise a Din" is a nationwide decentralized action that invites participation by everyone and encourages us to speak with our neighbors: the essence of organizing.

https://www.facebook.com/events/2709890799…

Posted by Helen Vozenilek on 01/11/2017 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

To the Lord of the Flies children who want to ignore every logical argument for why people protest against an oppressive system design to benefit privileged people... If you don't want protest then work towards creating a governing system that provides for the social needs of humanity rather than the expediency of commerce. As an example...

"Until and unless you are willing to accept responsibility for these actions,..."

... like the Giants World Series win and the massive smashy smashy and burning buses and vandalism that ensued...

"you will lack the credibility necessary to take your comments seriously....."

Posted by Sandy Sanders on 01/11/2017 at 8:01 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Ms. Brooks, you and your organization provide a venue for others to commit acts of vandalism and violence against others. Until and unless you are willing to accept responsibility for these actions, you will lack the credibility necessary to take your comments seriously.....

Posted by Howard Jordan on 01/11/2017 at 7:19 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

Sandy, are you going to fund the destruction from the protests? Didn't think so.

NONE of what is going to be protest is going to matter. Trump is President whether you like it or not. That's democracy.

DEALT WITH IT!

Posted by Robert Hope on 01/11/2017 at 7:07 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

No, the real children here are the people in this society who believe property, in this case windows, commercial building facades, dumpsters, newstands and police vehicles, are more important and sacrosanct than human beings, the lives of real persons. They have not evolved into adults who care more about the social needs of humanity than the unfettered engines of commerce. They ignore the violence perpetrated by racism, classism, wealth inequality and the police hired to protect commerce and the property interests of the 1%. And they ignore simple facts clearly presented and assert back mean selfish opinions.

Clearly Brooks states: "At nearly every protest, the police attacked protesters with tear gas, concussion grenades, and rubber bullets." This my dear friends is VIOLENCE. Deadly force of harm aimed at human beings. By Police.

"And some independent protesters engaged in property destruction." Property destruction is vandalism and vandalism is not physical harm to a human being. And yes she clearly says that "independent" protesters do what they are going to do. ADTP or any organized group does not exist as a police force of other people. That is the job of the police and they need to do their jobs without harming or provoking human beings.

I have personally seen at demonstrations in downtown Oakland where OPD literally moved aside from being in front of storefronts to seemingly allow people to break windows or spray graffiti. All they had to do to stop this was to line up in front of the buildings and just stand there, as they sometimes do. OPD is never seriously injured (except a cut or paint splattered) while protesters hit, end up in the hospital. It's as if OPD wants there to be vandalism and they provoke it with unprovoked (I can't tell you how many times I have seen this happen) weaponry use. Or back off and let stuff happen. Makes for good headlines against all protest and makes good propaganda fodder for the entitled 1% who own our society.

And again, MLK makes the clear point commenters here want to ignore because it is the heart of the issue and embarrasses their selfish position:

"These conditions [protested] are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention ... a riot is the language of the unheard."

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Re: “Ambushed: Contra Costa County Law Enforcement Sets Up Surprise Stings To Help Federal Immigration Agents Arrest and Deport Immigrants

In "The New Jim Crow," Michelle Alexander writes: "Rather than rely on race, we use our criminal justice system to label people of color criminals and then engage in all the practices we supposedly left behind." As a society, we have to push ourselves to understand the big picture, and we have to see the HUMANITY of people who have been arrested or convicted. Folks might be victims of racial profiling, folks might have made mistakes - look at stories like that of Eddy Zheng, who committed a very serious crime while a teenager and completely turned his life around and now mentors at-risk youth. Here, we have folks who are complying with their probation and working to change their lives, yet Government officials are using deceit to lure them in and separate them from their loved ones. Meanwhile, the County's making a pretty penny off of detaining folks. Is that ethical? Once we declare some people to essentially be not human, it's a slippery slope towards all of our constitutional rights being stripped down.

Posted by Jon R. on 01/11/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

If Ms. Brooks knows her movement history back to the time of Martin Luther King, Jr., she knows that the organizers of mass demonstrations had monitors who ensured peaceful events. Half a million people marched down Market Street in San Francisco without the vandalism at Ms. Brooks' street shows. Thanks for your statement in the Express, Ms. Brooks, but until you take specific steps of action, your allegedly peaceful assemblies provide cover for vandals and thieves.

Posted by Charlie Pine on 01/11/2017 at 4:06 PM

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