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Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

With optimism and a RSVP invitation I attended this meeting, suffering from "walking pneumonia," still I drove up from Santa Cruz to hear and be heard.

I really felt inspired, activated even, during the first part of Mr. Zimmerman's keynote speech; however, as he went on to champion DPA as the tool and "...there will be winners and losers," I started to feel betrayed. Then when he so slickly spoke about 1/3 California voters are ready to approve legalization, 1/3 always will oppose such, and 1/3 are still riding the fence, a bell started ringing in my head...maybe it was just the pneumonia, but my common sense light was starting to strobe: didn't he earlier say over 50% of Californians polled want to see marijuana/cannabis legalized? Don't all the major polls show similar majority support among Californians! So, if over 50% want to see this marvelous plant made a respectable member of California's medical and recreational culture then why all that 1/3 -1/3 - 1/3 hyperbole?

Then there was Mr. Zimmerman's "...elections are not won by committee." comment. Since when? Yes, having a well known, or intelligent front man works wonders; however, for example, President Obama never utters a word publicly that hasn't been vetted by a team of advisors, a committee. I feel Mr. Zimmerman is the front man for Drug Policy Alliance (DPA). Smoothly he wants the rest of us to more or less sit-back and let the potentates at DPA craft what rules they think best for the rest of us. Seeing all the turmoil in other states where DPS has held sway over the main ballot measure's language, I'm more strongly than ever for final wording input from other cannabis legalization groups, instead of the unilateral approach Mr. Zimmerman so subtlety proposes.

Then there was Mr. Zimmerman's "...going to cost four times more than they do.." comment. As Mr. Zimmerman pointed out we already know what the arguments against legalization are, will be. Fine, craft now, ahead of time, instant response "zingers" that we, too, already know are effective counters to the disinformation our opponents will attempt to infect Californians with. This is the "5 P" rule: Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

When presented the opportunity I raised my own personal issue during one of the Q & A periods: the 2016 ballot measure must contain language that places California state law supreme over local county and municipality ordinances. The Brown Act states such, but so far a long list, and growing longer every month of California county board of supervisors, and cities and towns are opting to pass local ordinances that effectively strangle-to-death the ability for cannabis patients and the businesses that supply these patients adequate amounts of medicine. This not only flys in the face of the Brown Act, but effectively says local rule trumps state laws. And, as I see it a number of counties and municipalities are using such obstructive and repressive ordinances as a frame work for even greater restrictions on recreational cannabis, up to and including completely banning such from their county. This isn't being made any easier with California's high court's recent ruling giving the green light to local rule over state law.

Perhaps a better way to demonstrate the absurdity of this is to offer an absurdity: There is a state law making murder illegal; however, it can be argued that "...some people need kill'n," so this or that county could make an ordinance that says "...in _____ county it is legal to kill some people." This ordinance could claim in its defense the precedent established by California's Supreme Court giving counties, etc., the right to side-step, effectively pay no attention to state law, and ignore the will of the people of California so that a small but vocal and organized percentage of that county's citizens could just go out and kill who ever they think need killing. Absurd isn't it; well, that's how California's high court sees local marijuana ordinances: legally able to trump legislated state law and the will of the majority of California voters.

So as not to be seen as just another voice against this or that, I offer that language in the 2016 ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana in California contain something like: "The rights and privileges now afforded the people of California within this law legalizing recreational use of cannabis can only be challenged at the state level Any and all California counties and or cities or towns who wish to decrease or void such protections must appeal their wishes to the California legislature for an up or down vote on such measures.
Yes, I know the wording in not perfect, still, I'm showing my intent here not to be just another pot-hole in the highway toward full legalization, but willing, if asked to work with those who beyond the hyperbole are willing to work toward crafting a ballot measure that will get that +50% of the California voters who already are in favor of legalization to get off their arse and vote for it.

Otherwise all the grand words in what ever is presented to the voters in 2016 is just so much "Hogwash.", using Dale Sky Jones comment.

No, I do not propose I have all the answers; however, I do not think we should rely on DPA to have all of them either. What's worked in the past for DPA is all well and good, but that's a classic Platonian logic fallacy to think that because it worked in the past it will work now. It might not even be DPA who leads ind developing what will be presented to Californians in 2016, but rather just one of several level-headed members of the team, the committee that congeals the will of the people into a cohesive whole that does protect all of us, that does not leave out any of us.

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Posted by Grady Padgett on 01/20/2015 at 1:28 AM

Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

"Be very afraid of someone who says "Our belief about what is right has to be put aside""

Sounds like the MJ Taliban speaking.

Fact is that California once was a leader in moving ahead on MJ reform. Now we've fallen 'way behind. We need to move forward. MJ reform isn't about catering to a new MJ industry or MJ medical movement but stopping all the destructive drug war stuff, getting potheads out of prison, etc.

Important to keep one's mind on reality.

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Posted by Hobart Johnson on 01/15/2015 at 11:15 AM

Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

CCHI

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Posted by Kevin Saunders on 01/15/2015 at 6:45 AM

Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

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Posted by Editor on 01/14/2015 at 9:30 PM

Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

DPA has had its share of failures. Too bad they aren't working well with others (so far). The rest of the conference was so positive, it's a shame to have to read this. DPA needs to sit down at the drafting table with the CCPR coalition.

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Posted by Ellen Komp on 01/14/2015 at 3:12 PM

Re: “California's Legalization Quagmire

The groups that have failed over and over need to put their egos and agendas aside and work with a unified effort. DPA is poised to do this in a professional and progressive way.

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Posted by Susan Soares on 01/14/2015 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

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Posted by Editor on 01/09/2015 at 10:54 AM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

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Posted by Editor on 12/25/2014 at 4:53 PM

Re: “Bud Lit: Legalization Nation's Best Books of 2014

If these were the top Legalization books of the year, here are my favorites from some other interesting political causes: http://higherprogress.com/2014/12/10/higher-progress-best-books-of-2014/

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Posted by Ryan Tardiff on 12/17/2014 at 7:16 AM

Re: “Why California Weed Is Still the Best

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Posted by Editor on 12/15/2014 at 1:09 AM

Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya

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Posted by Editor on 12/10/2014 at 3:36 AM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

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Posted by Editor on 12/08/2014 at 6:14 AM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

Funny how the CBD Rich Hemp Oil from these companies won the High Times Cannabis Cup award for 5 years best CBD. HempMeds is the world leader in CBD Rich Hemp Oil. The leader will always have a target on their back!

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Posted by Damon D'Amico on 12/04/2014 at 10:34 PM

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Posted by Editor on 12/02/2014 at 8:26 PM

Re: “Green Lit: California Legalization Measure Is a Go for 2016

CA rejected Prop 19 for good reason in 2010 and in 2016 they will choose something better. The "Jack Herer Initiative" has launched it's campaign as well for 2016, it's fair and realistic yet progressive and bold...like California itself. CCHI2016 and nothing less!

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Posted by Patrick Moore on 12/01/2014 at 12:37 PM

Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya

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Posted by Editor on 11/26/2014 at 10:08 PM

Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya

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Posted by Editor on 11/25/2014 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Green Lit: California Legalization Measure Is a Go for 2016

Excellent recap of the election results and what future legalization efforts look like.

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Posted by Linda Stokely on 11/21/2014 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

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Posted by Editor on 11/14/2014 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Ask Legalization Nation: Weeding Out Hemp Oil Hustlers.

doing nothing more but parroting bad information. Project CBD is being sued, they clearly have a conflict of interests based on past relationships with CannaVEST, and most of the questions regarding the legality of the products mentioned, are easily refuted. the contaminates cited came from improper cleaning of lab equipment, were reported as flawed by the lab, and then sited in the report anyway. the project CBD piece was full of holes. there are MANY reputable companies selling hemp derived CBD, Medmjinc was simply the first one with the highest profile. they have since been replaced by higher quality whole plant outfits. (its not "in the pipeline", it is already being sold by many companies, get with the times) this stuff (information, companies, etc) is quite easy to find. no need to just reprint information that is inaccurate or highly questionable. you are parroting old information, the industry has moved on beyond the initial companies sourcing Chinese hemp, that is soo 2 years ago. NO ONE is using Chinese hemp, most is coming out of Europe and will be coming out of the U.S. with farms going online this last year. http://cbdmarijuanaoil.com/nations-largest-cbd-hemp-farms/ Quit trying to paint the entire legal CBD industry with the same brush, and labeling it all categorically as "snake oil". all it takes is a simple day on google and amazon to get to the bottom of that question. anyone saying otherwise has never properly researched legal CBD and are simply reprinting articles, such as you are in this piece, instead of adding anything original to the debate. there are many breeders overseas and in the U.S. using hybrids such as Charlotte's Web that qualify for industrial hemp status, and as such, may be sold nationally as nutritional supplements, just like CW is as of last month. and no one is saying CW is snake oil. it is low THC medical marijuana or "industrial hemp" under law. quit being niave of the plants breeding potential under current U.S. law. legal cbd will pave the way for the marketing of any number of the 120 some cannabinoids found in Cannabis, as the only which must be limited is THC. OPEN YOU MIND to the breeding possibilities and stop badmouthing the industry.

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Posted by Steve Jones on 11/10/2014 at 12:21 PM

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