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Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

JJJJ. You are also wrong about the beginning of Berkeleys free speech movment. It did not start as an anti war platform
The only agenda originally was free speech. Students talked about various6 topics from philosophy to history or whatever they wanted. True freedom. Not what you have now. With the PC restrictions and oppression "safe spaces ."trigger words" "hate speech" of the modern left.

It was later it became more focussed on ending the Viet Nam war. But those who supported the war were not attacked and shut down.


The left has become increasingly intolerant and greedy for power. You don't have God to guide you so you will inevidbly resort to corrupt tactics. Your sin nature is not in check because you don't have the spirit of God.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Mark Klein, if you want to look good, choose a different site then right next to the farmers market. If you actually care and want to connect with the community, respect that. If you just want to cause trouble and outrage, do what you are doing but then you're not a Christian no matter what you say.

Posted by Chris Stehlik on 04/11/2017 at 1:36 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

JJ you are very ignorant as to what We want. We are not violent. the left is etxreamly violent
It is in your DNA. Lenin Stalin pol pot mau leftist ideaalogy leads to mass murder poverty and opprersion...and yes Hitler was a socialist too. Give it up leave the dark side come in to the truth. Repent and turn to Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. If we use your logic we should shut down Cal for leftist genocide ideologies. But we believe in free speech. You do not.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

JJ brings up every leftist agenda talking point to evade the issue at hand. We have a right to free speech and we have An obligation to protect it. Anything else is un-american and against liberty. Anything else leads to oppression.

But I suspect JJ hates this country too. And dosn't mind Soviet style oppresion that his "comrads" support. .Another hallmark of the left. This is why they support bringing jihadists in to this country. They all hate this country.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 1:09 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Sounds like fun! Another chance to MAGA!

Posted by Louis Marschalko on 04/11/2017 at 12:52 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

It's one day.
Just laugh at them.
Buy your food on an earlier day.

Posted by Buck99 on 04/11/2017 at 12:32 PM

Re: “Town Business: Strengthening Code Enforcement

Who's going to pay for this? It's an excellent idea. What do you do to make slum lords see the error of their ways?

Posted by Joan Soo on 04/11/2017 at 12:28 PM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

this is really stupid.
why do two out of town groups of immature people get to come ruin the farmers market?
wasn't last times stupid brawl not enough for either of you? people live and work here.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.
George Washington

Posted by jacobC on 04/11/2017 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Of course their whole thing is to prove 'the left' is violent. And yet, they support the violence of bombing Syria and getting more civilians killed than causing any real damage to Assad or Putin's gear. The forcing of people off health care & out of homes, Trump's support for less than minimum wage, the ultra-pro military stance, the promise of a renewed 'war on drugs,' and on women & immigrants. The attack on indigenous peoples rights, their land, water. The threat of privatizing everything from schools to water & air. These are all acts of violence & need to be called out. Agree with Trump & you *are* colluding with violence, make no mistake about that. And really, one has to be a special kind of idiot if they think a billionaire is going to bring living wage jobs to Americans; billionaires make their money from taking from the workers' share.

With Trump's recent orgasm over a missile launch (missiles in which he owns stock in the manufacturer, it seems) his freak show must be emboldened. They want a good headline of 'Berkeley shutting out free speech.'
But this is like supporting a rally for pedophiles & rapists in a public park, right across the street from Berkeley High School. "Hey, ladies, hey kids, it's just them exercising their free speech about the violence they would dearly enjoy doing to your body. What's wrong with you? You don't support free speech?" Not surprising that Trump has been accused over & over of sexual assault, Milo Y supports pedophilia ("I wouldn't give such good head if it were not for Father Michael") and this seems to be a thread running through the alt-right itself.

It seems that people forget that the free speech movement grew out of people wanting to stand up and speak out against war, against the draft, against racism & racist hiring practices, against the paranoia about communism, socialism, etc. and for it they were arrested, dragged down stairs, smacked over their heads with batons, hit with fire hoses, etc..
Now you have the surreal experience of supporters of war & racism calling 'free speech' and we have the numbed, the cowed, the ambivalent, the confused, the fearful, the pampered-too-long, the comfortable-niche 'liberal' people saying, "Well, it is free speech, just ignore them." While the fascists grow....

Posted by JJ Noire on 04/11/2017 at 10:38 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

JJ while you post a link to a biased atheists ramblings, I am asking people to look at the overwhelming video evidence on youtube of the lawless violence Antifa commits around the world. Any rational non radical can easily recognize your movement as evil. Only law enforcement protect the citizens of Berkeley from the mass carnage antifa wishes to carry out. Let the people decide. A lawfull society or carnage. We save lives. You destroy

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 10:10 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

JJ One who does good will be commended by the authorities. This is in the Bible. Romans chapter 13

The anti police movement is opposed to God. They hate the authorities because they commit crimes. They hide their faces to escape being caught for rioting
Assault and destruction of property.

Your people kill police mock them curse them spit in their face and still the law enforcement officers protect you and your freedoms.

You should repent of your sin and ask Jesus to forgive you.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 9:57 AM

Re: “Town Business: Strengthening Code Enforcement

Once again we have an illustration of a massively dysfunctional organizational culture. It doesn't matter what department or function you choose. There is no competent qualified leadership, the staff lacks experience and is poorly trained. People are promoted and given positions based on time served and relationships. It's almost like a big family where cousins routinely marry each other. After a few generations, every kid born has blue eyes.There are many basic city services and processes that most cities routinely complete on a daily basis that Oakland just can't figure out. Fire Inspectors communicating with the Building Inspectors to flag and resolve life safety issues in order to save lives is NOT a computer system problem. The distractions and excuses coming from the Mayor and City Administrators office are just not true. People are dying because of incompetence and a culture of people not understanding how to do their jobs and more importantly, not understanding how they fit into the larger organizational structure. Many are there to get paid the most they can, do the least they can and don't make waves. When your core mission is to provide public service, that kind of organizational mentality, left unchecked by incompetent leadership, can only end badly.

Posted by Gary Patton on 04/11/2017 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

People who know history know to wear masks. When you are not on the side supporting authoritarian ultimate power (fascists) you know the potential consequences and how authoritarians operate. The groups swearing to provide 'protection' for the Trump fascist supporters are not non-violent groups.
https://www.thenation.com/article/backward…

Posted by JJ Noire on 04/11/2017 at 9:42 AM

Re: “West Oakland Fire Survivors Say City's Response Is Unacceptable and Victim Assistance Is Lacking

There are many causes of "homelessness". This is one among those. But what, exactly, confers a special status upon these people that all the other homeless people in the same area don't enjoy?

The starkly expectant expressions of entitlement may be groundless.

And the race card, counterfeit.

Posted by Christoverre Kohler on 04/11/2017 at 9:38 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Dear people of Berkeley please don't blame conservatives for the violent reactionist leftists that indirectly shut down your market. I am sorry for this. I was a vender for years and realize the losses.

We will be acting in a lawfull manner and have many law enforcment professionals keeping the peace. If antifa was not dedicated to the disruption of this freedom event there would be peace with out question.

Antifa and Bamn openly promote violence. They have caused millions of dollars in damage to your city. They have assaulted your citizens They are no friend to you.

They fancy themselves as a Leninist revolution movment. They want blood shed this is clear. Just watch the youtube evidence of the violence they perpetuate.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 9:14 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

We are not white supreamists We welcome all freedom loving people to join us. God says in his word we are all created equal. The violent and vile leftist extremists slander our name to justify their propencity toward violence.

Antifa want a violent revolution this is well documented We want peace and freedom to express our views in a civilized manner.

Do not believe the violent and godless antifa. Just look at the video evidence of the carnage they perpetuate around the world. By their fruits you will know them.

A simple youtube search of antifa will prove they are a lawless violent hateful group.

Posted by Mark Klein on 04/11/2017 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Is it the Trump supporters, or this response to the trump supporters?

DEFEND THE BAY! BLOC PARTY & COOKOUT

The "Alt-Right" is coming back to Berkeley...

But we will gladly escort them back out! Let's come together to enjoy music, food, speakers, and each other's company while we drown out the embarrassing attempts of racists and nationalists to display their hate-fueled support for Trump. Let's fill MLK park with our resilient bodies before these bigots can even show their faces, prevent their rally, and send the message that we aren't down with the hate all while enjoying dope beats and delicious BBQ.
We gonna cook the fash out of Berkeley!

WHAT TO BRING:
#1 YOUR CREW - Do not come alone! It is crucial to bring your friends so that you can have each other's backs if something were to go down. Even though our goal is to shut down the pro-Trump rally before it can even happen, there is a pattern of fascists and Trump supporters coming armed to rallies and attacking anti-racists, especially targetting Black, Trans and Gender Non-Conforming people.*

#2 A MASK - Masking up or otherwise concealing your identity helps protect you from the alt-right and the state. There is a risk of the alt-right doxxing individuals for the purposes of online harassment campaigns which can lead to off-line consequences. You also want to assure the state does not identify you so they cannot target you for repression later on. Consider bringing an extra mask in case someone else might need one!

#3 FOOD (if you can) - Bring food to share if you can, but no worries if you can't!

*In the last year, emboldened by Trump's hate campaign, we have seen an intense rise in white supremacist activity and targetted attacks. From burning Black churches to vandalizing Mosques, there is no limit to how low these bigots will stoop. And we have seen the horrors they commit when confronted in the streets. From the shooting of a GDC member in Seattle at a Milo Yiannopoulos protest to the 7 people (almost all of whom were Black or Trans) stabbed by neo-nazis on June 26th, 2016 at the state's capital Trump supporters and the far-right aren't hesitant to commit heinous acts of violence. After all, they have the support of the white-supremacist State and the badged goons! So while we're out there enjoying ourselves, let's remember to be careful, keep our eyes peeled and have each other's backs.

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For more helpful information on staying safe and secure check out the following links:

https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/message-in-a-bottle.pdf

https://mtlcounter-info.org/en/staying-safer-in-the-streets/

For more information on the goons organizing and attending the March4Trump events:

https://nocara.blackblogs.org/

Posted by Maria Parker on 04/11/2017 at 7:59 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Seriously, the Antifa is telling people to bring masks. Why in the world would you need "masks" if your intentions were honorable or good? The far right people/ white supremacists (sarc) will not be in masks.

Posted by Wm Armstrong on 04/11/2017 at 7:56 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

@Jeff McCue, What pressure? The pressure from your rancid stupidity and ugliness? Are you a white supremacist? Sounds like it. Do you also believe in Pizzagate and that rape victims should be shouted at? Are you an anti-Semite? Oh, and nice photo. Good to know right-wing bigots are in the US military.

Posted by Vincent Blafard on 04/11/2017 at 7:33 AM

Re: “Berkeley Farmers Market Canceled Due To Safety Fears Over Pro-Trump, Alt-Right Rally

Where, in the name of reporting, does this article list the TIME of this event other than Saturday morning???

Posted by David Moreno on 04/11/2017 at 7:11 AM

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