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Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

Seems like some jurisdictions always have to blame someone for consenting adults engaging in paid-for sex.

Posted by Sera Pinkle on 08/31/2016 at 7:55 PM

Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

Join the fight! One of the plaintiffs in the ESPLERP v Gascon case, the historic case challenging the (un)constitutionality of the anti prostitution law in California, wants to be a client. You can make a donation online to ensure your rights will be recognized too. @esplerp

Posted by mistressmax3db9 on 08/31/2016 at 6:49 PM

Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

A timely contribution. Indeed, since Maggie McNeill posted her call for clients to organize, a handful of us have been beginning plans towards that end - with Maggie and other sex workers as advisers.

Posted by Desmond Ravenstone on 08/31/2016 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

Thank you for this excellent article about our clients. The so called Nordic Model allows abuse by cops who use the laws to threaten to arrest our clients if we do not provide them with sex, money or information. The reason that the Nordic model does not work is because any time you penalize the purchaser of a service, the laws can only be enforced arbitrarily and selectively, giving cops the leverage to extort sex workers. How about just arresting the people who actually abuse another person, when and if a criminal report is filed. Pursuing the non violent, non abusive clients, employers and associates of consenting adult sex workers means that scarce and valuable resources are squandered, leaving nothing to help the real victims. From 1991 to 2014, there were 6,251,076 reported violent rapes and sexual assaults, but cops managed to apprehend only 651,107 predators, leaving 5,599,969 victims without justice. (stats from the FBI Bureau of Justice Statistics, tables #5 and 69), Those who demand an 'end the demand' are ensuring that even fewer real predators are apprehended while their pathetic agenda to abolish all commercial sex leaves ALL women more vulnerable. http://policeprostitutionandpolitics.com/e…

Posted by Norma Jean Almodovar on 08/31/2016 at 2:13 PM

Re: “Eleanor Roosevelt's Great Lesbian Love Affair

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Re: “Eleanor Roosevelt's Great Lesbian Love Affair

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Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

Thanks for the smart words about sex work! Here is a link to a former project about education for clients. http://www.schoolforjohns.com/ Since then the shame based John's school program, specifically SAGE, has closed down in San Francisco, however the DA is still running a shaming program. Clients are in the crosshairs around the world. Here is a collection of material for further info. http://www.bayswan.org/enddemand/

Posted by ScarlotHarlot on 08/31/2016 at 11:34 AM

Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

The issue of whether or not to legalize sex work is complicated and there are reasoned arguments on both sides. Even Savage himself notes that the Nordic model is "much-touted" but neglects to offer why. It's called the Nordic model because it's already been implemented in countries that have tracked its effectiveness. Savage does a disservice to this issue and effectively silences the sex workers who "tout" the Nordic model by only representing one side of this debate and only offering the sources that support his views. When you present one side and suggest that you are speaking for all who are effected by an issue, that's called "propaganda." That would be like asking about the Black Lives Matter movement and only quoting articles by members of law enforcement. That's what Savage has done and it's a disservice to the issue and to the women and men who both work in and have dealt with the sex industry who disagree with Savage's one-sided presentation of the issue. In addition, his celebratory, fun tone regarding sex work completely ignores the epidemic problem of child sex slavery, as many sex workers are first pimped while under the legal age of consent. Speaking of pimps, Savage also conveniently left them out of the discussion, as well. While Savage shows empathy for the people who buy sex, he appears to have zero empathy or awareness for the children who are pimped into forced prostitution or the women who are trafficked across borders for forced sex work. Nor does he offer any solutions for those heinous human rights violations.

Posted by Amy Luna Manderino on 08/31/2016 at 7:56 AM

Re: “Dan Savage: How Can Sex Worker Clients Fight to Legalize Sex Work?

Regarding what sex work clients can do, this is what I did

https://medium.com/vantage/diary-of-a-sex-…

Don't be silent and don't be invisible and don't let prohibitionists' caricatures of you be the only impressions that people have.

Posted by Peter Schafer on 08/31/2016 at 5:58 AM

Re: “The Black Choreographers Festival Brings its First Summer Series to Laney College

Brilliant article. Kudos to the writer.

Posted by Rolly Viray on 08/26/2016 at 1:50 AM

Re: “Hearts of Palm At the Berkeley City Club

Great show. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Posted by Tanya Grove on 08/17/2016 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Free Will Astrology

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Re: “Dan Savage The Sports Writer Comes Off the Bench for Dan Savage the Sex Columnist

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Re: “Free Will Astrology

I so love my horoscope this week! Brilliant!

Posted by Mario Savioni on 08/07/2016 at 9:08 PM

Re: “The Time is Now Closing Party at Naming Gallery

Amazing! Hil Jaeger is my artist crush. xoxoxoxoxxo

Posted by Yael Hartmann on 08/05/2016 at 4:37 AM

Re: “The Time is Now Closing Party at Naming Gallery

Double yaaas!

Posted by Maggie Howe Amiano on 08/03/2016 at 9:54 AM

Re: “The Time is Now Closing Party at Naming Gallery

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Posted by Emily Howe on 08/03/2016 at 7:30 AM

Re: “The Woman Behind Big Freedia

Where is Renee in Season 5. Seems she's been replaced.

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Re: “The Needle vs. the Damage Done

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Re: “Three Peters

Can they discuss the band "the Kinks"? (I guess the capital makes it ok.)

Posted by Mark Sheff on 07/21/2016 at 2:04 PM

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