I have been to the circus since I was in grade school. what would the circus be without the animals? and who are these people to make the rules of what we can do and not do. I will go to the circus when ever they are here.
If LA can "Ban the Bullhook" then so can Oakland... Reality is yes the animals are abused and yes we can do something about it!
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I do the purchasing where I work & I won't buy anything that I can get elsewhere from businesses in cities with these unconscionable policies ! Tell your families,friends & neighbors to let these businesses know that the reason they will no longer shop or eat there is because of their cities obstructionist laws ! You'll be happier & your money will be better spent in more enlightened communities like San Francisco,Oakland,Berkeley or San Jose for example. In the meantime we must double our efforts to dispatch these self-righteous simpletons at the ballot box,as no one who puts their ill-conceived personal biases before the wishes of the majority of their constituents is worthy of representing them ! Anti-marijuana is anti-American !!!
What gets lost in the rush to ban everything and anything cannabis-related is the original framework set down in SB 420: A comprehensive system of cannabis regulations that would address both personal and collective cultivation, while also acknowledging the strong police powers of cities and counties to regulate zoning and land use. Cities and counties are understandably focused on the latter, while feigning ignorance that SB 420 even exists. But if you think about it, they're trying to dis-invent what the Legislature invented: Safe and affordable access in urban areas for people who can't grow their own via collectives and dispensaries, a 6-plant threshold of presumed reasonableness for personal cultivation, and zero limits on sustainable outdoor cultivation.
To whom it may concern: A person posting herein and identifying his/herself as (literally) the son of God, and posting hateful things about the circus, is a candidate for removal from this site in my humble opinion. To this person - identify yourself and be reasonable or cease to comment.
It's not amazing to me that there are extremists here posting literally dozens of anti-circus messages. That you SCREAM loudly does not make you any more right. Your propaganda is NOT evidence of a crime (animal abuse is a crime) or it would have been used in a court of law. You repeatedly ask ME to "explain" those videos, but since you allege a crime, the burden of proof is upon YOU! The only crime/abuse we have witnessed at the circus is the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of animal rights protestors. There is nothing wrong with regulation in the best interests of the animals. We are all for it. There is however a big difference between animal "welfare" and animal "rights"! The circus can possibly save the asian elephant, and other animals from extinction.... while you would accept extinction. You are entitled to your opinion, but we insist that you allow others to have an opinion, and if they prefer, to attend a circus with performing animals! You allege much and prove very little. Long live the circus and it's animals....they are loved and well cared for! I have been a witness to that for decades!
Has anyone even seen an elephant guide, known as a bullhook? I have. This management tool is designed to be used to tap the elephant to provide guidance on what is expected. You cannot talk to an elephant as humans are not tall enough to be able to do that effectively, as you would with a horse or dog. Individuals who think the bullhook is cruel just simply do not understand its use...and the animal rights radicals are taking advantage of that lack of information.
The elephant guide is a management tool, just as a dog leash or a halter and reins on a horse. To ban the bullhook is to BAN the elephants coming to town! The trainers would have no ability to communicate with the elephants if they could not use the bullhook. That is probably exactly what the radicals want but it would deny families and children the opportunity to experience these majestic creatures. Oakland Council Members need to learn the facts, but not from animal rights radicals who want to eliminate animals in entertainment!
$260,000---Pocket change...for alleged violations that included peeling paint, a hole in the ceiling, some screws that needed tightening, sawdust on a window ledge, some fences that needed mending--all fixed at the time of citation. Of course it's the biggest. Who else has 3 trains over a mile long and a 200 acre conservation center (oh, so you do admit it's real then, since it was mentioned in the inspections). And all of them inspected within an inch of their lives in transit and at set ups. These inspections took place over 5 years and Feld was busy being pecked to death by ducks during a 12 year frivolous law suit. So it was probably a back room deal. USDA got to pound their chests and the media and show the country what a great job they were doing and somebody got a pat on the head from the boss. Everyone probably went out for drinks after making that deal. But you prove a point. With USDA looking over them so well, ensuring nobody gets away with mistreating any animals, there should be no objection what so ever. Don't you feel better now? Nothing to worry about. USDA is on their tail and isn't going to let them get away with anything. Problem solved. So...oh, and then there's this....
ASPCA to pay nearly $10 million in lawsuit settlement
The nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) on Friday announced that Feld Entertainment, owner of the Ringling Bros. Circus, has reached a $9.3 million settlement with the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) in connection with a federal lawsuit filed by Feld under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act.
Feld’s litigation will continue against other animal rights defendants, including the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and two of its attorneys, Jonathan Lovvorn and Kimberly Ockene, who could be liable for tens of millions of dollars due to criminal activity.
Feld’s lawsuit alleges that ASPCA, HSUS, Lovvorn, Ockene, and others took part in an illegal scheme to pursue fraudulent litigation against Feld that dragged through the court for years. Federal judge Emmet Sullivan dismissed this previous animal-rights lawsuit in late 2009 after finding that the key witness for the animal-rights plaintiffs was “essentially a paid plaintiff and fact witness who is not credible.”
In his dismissal, Sullivan exposed a system by which animal-rights plaintiffs funneled at least $190,000 to this witness. Feld alleges that the HSUS sent six payments earmarked to pay this witness through a nonprofit front group controlled by plaintiffs’ counsel. Evidence from court documents show some of the money was paid to the nonprofit group with an HSUS check signed by CEO Wayne Pacelle.
The $9.3 million settlement by the ASPCA indicates that HSUS and other defendants could face tens of millions in damages if they are found to have acted illegally, according to CCF. Feld has stated that it spent $20 million dollars defending against the failed animal-rights litigation, and the RICO Act allows for triple damages.
“While HSUS has spent this holiday season raising money with tear-jerking ads featuring pet rescues, the group really ought to be asking for money to pay their for their defense attorneys and shady dealings,” said CCF Executive Director Richard Berman.
According to public polling, 71 percent of Americans mistakenly believe that HSUS is a pet shelter umbrella group, and 68 percent wrongly think that HSUS spends most of its money on grants to pet shelters.
More information about the RICO lawsuit is available online.
Why is it ok for the bullhook and abuse to go on? All animals need laws to protect them. Shame on this country to allow this. It makes no sense and it makes me sick!
Hi Jaynelle, I saw you on the G GARVIN'S ROAD TRIP and I am still looking to buy one of those delicious pies, where can I buy them?
Yes, we know...it's ok...try to stay calm and maybe take some deep breaths. Here's and article about Mr. Kenneth Feld. It might be good to start working on some Terrorism Management Therapy. Perhaps we could start by just establishing that Mr. Feld at least looks like a regular person and is unlikely to be a terrorist. He's not going to bomb anyone's house. See? Just a regular person like one of your neighbors, and those elephants are like his pets. He loves and wants to protect them. He invests $65,000 a year on each of them to ensure their ultimate health and welfare. Their handling is designed to keep them and everyone involved safe, secure, confident, trusting and happy. See how the elephants trust him? If they were mistreated elephants they wouldn't allow him near them, or they'd try to harm him to protect themselves. And it's not just for a picture. I was there last month at CEC. I saw the babies with their mothers and they came up to be petted. One of the young ones put his head right into my hands and let me kiss his face...totally unafraid, and his mother was standing right there, calm and accepting carrots from all the other people who saw it all, too. None of us are terrorists, either. It might be hard for you to accept but maybe if you try real hard. Now as for 3 day trips, well their 3 trains travel to 120 cities in the US each year from January to November, and each follows a route with lots of stops along the way. So it's not that far from one venue to another. If it would help we could look at the schedule for each train and find out how long is the longest ride and how often that happens. Often stops are only hours apart and then when they get there, the animals get a nice walk from the train station to their accommodations, so that's nice exercise for them. Even the tricks they do are good exercise for them. Balancing on things, standing on their hind legs, standing up against each other, holding each others tails; even standing on their heads. They are all things they would do on their own naturally because it's fun and feels good. Elephants can be very playful and they like learning. They can exercise their minds and bodies instead of having to look for food and water and be worried about saving their babies from predators and themselves from poachers. And that's an important thing for you to think about since you're so worried about terrorists and you love the eles so much. Poachers are real terrorists; you should be afraid of them and afraid of what they will do to the elephants. I am afraid for them and afraid of their diseases. Diseases are like terrorists, too. Being afraid of those things would be much better for you; then you could put your fears to good use supporting programs to stop terrorist poachers and terrorist diseases. Can you work on that? You'll feel better.
Inside Feld Entertainment’s Center for Elephant Conservation
"At his Center for Elephant Conservation, Sarasota circus magnate Kenneth Feld gives a rare glimpse into his passion for his mighty pachyderms."
On the outside chance the is person targeting me as the object of their dark, violent urges towards garden variety citizens of established society and casting me as the protagonist of their animal abuse porn fantasy du jour is somehow retrievable and educable, I'll put the frantic, maniacal hate mongering temper tantrums aside. I am unaffected by them except to acknowledge them as manifestations and confirmations of the severe lack of emotional discipline and failure to have developed coping skills that drive those suffering from one or perhaps co-morbid catastrophizing disorders. AR/AL draws them like a magnet as they desperately seek an outlet to relieve the mental discomfort of their overwhelming anxieties and exhibitionistic need for attention. Most importantly, it grants them full permission to act out with complete abandon, at least in some environments such as online, without fear of consequences. Its perverted cult-like dogma provides a default justification and sense of entitlement to unleash, often with a characteristic show of some deep sadistic pleasure, explosions of spine-quaking vengeance and G-d like mortal wrath on hapless strangers. Victims sought and cited for annihilation as ultimate punishment for their indefensible fetal failure and execrable, fatal crime of being a member of the mainstream.
Those who feel pressure to find opportunities to express their extremely distorted emotions do so in an attempt to find relief by transferring their debilitating anxieties and inner struggles onto others. However, the relief it brings is only temporary as it does nothing to change the dysfunctional mental patterns and chemical imbalances that cause it. They are not to be thought of without pity as the compulsions they reveal are often caused by their own suffering, of which many are not in control.
There appears a strong possibility identification with the AR/AL movement is inextricably related to a symptom called "terrorism catastrophizing", which tends to plague those afflicted with mental health disorders and which is defined and examined in this study. It is easy to make the bridge from acts of terrorism and real or imagined acts of mistreatment of animals. Exposure to even the suggestion of such incidents could likewise cause someone who fixates due to a pre-existing mental disorder to project themselves into the position of animals. By assigning the role of terrorist to every human involved in working with them they then can interpret every one of their interactions and motivations as related to current or future acts of mistreatment they equate to terrorism. Low self esteem and a world view that is incompatible with their culture prevents them from being able to cope with the idea that any acts of mistreatment exist in this world. Therefore they feel an uncontrollable drive to try to eliminate every possibility of it occurring. No amount of proof of any situation whatsoever where it is not occurring can be accepted. This apparently relates to the inability to control fear of one's own mortality. What's most interesting is..this is measurable through the Terrorism Catastrophizing Scale (TCS) discussed in this study.
This brings to mind how much control groups like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA, ADI, ADL, etc, can have on this vulnerable segment of the population by knowing well how to cause them to associate mistreatment of animals with acts of terror. Exploiting those with low self esteem and dysfunctional world views could be very lucrative indeed. This needs exploring and deep consideration by anyone who can recognize the connection. It seems to be blaring.
Terrorism catastrophizing as related to self-esteem and cultural worldview in a sample of outpatient adults with pre-existing mental health disorders
"The DSM-IV-TR (2000) characterizes mental health disorders by the subjective experience of significant distress and impairment in important domains of daily functioning that is ***not the expected or culturally appropriate response to a life stressor. This distress and impairment in daily functioning can be debilitating and life threatening.***
"Catastrophizing is a combination of the constructs of rumination, magnification, and helplessness as originally studied by Sullivan, Bishop, and Pivik (1995) and their work with those experiencing chronic stress and pain. Sinclair and LoCicero (2007) characterized catastrophizing as thinking the worst will occur ***despite indications to the contrary."***
"Terrorism catastrophizing is defined as a fear of future terrorism (Sinclair & LoCicero, 2007). It is a concept only recently developed and studied in response to the suggestion that people continue to fear future terrorism in spite of an across the board reduction in the rates of psychopathology to normal levels since 9-11 (Galea et al., 2003; Sinclair & LoCicero, 2006).
"Considering the pervasive and global nature of terrorism it is important to study how terrorism catastrophizing may affect different groups of people such as those possibly more vulnerable to catastrophizing than those in the general population. Sinclair and LoCicero (2007) found evidence that many Americans in the general population are affected to some degree by terrorism catastrophizing.*** The Sinclair and LoCicero study suggested that people affected by terrorism who then employ catastrophic thinking associated with fears of future terrorism are at increased risk of experiencing overall mental distress."***
****Important to this study, and a recommendation for future research by Sinclair and LoCicero, is the examination of individuals who may be more vulnerable to terrorism catastrophizing including those with pre-existing diagnosed mental health disorders. Ellick and Paradis (2004) and Freedy and Simpson (2007) found that those with pre-existing mental health disorders were at increased risk for future mental health difficulties and identified these individuals as part of a vulnerable population to future disasters including acts of terrorism. Heldring (2008) discussed psychiatric symptoms triggered by terrorism and reported that those with pre-existing psychiatric disorders were at increased risk for symptoms exacerbation associated with future terrorist attacks.****
"TMT posits that when people are reminded of their inevitable death they have their self- esteem and cultural worldview as defenses against the potential terror and anxiety induced by such reminders (Bassett, 2005)."
"Sinclair and LoCicero eventually developed, validated, psychometrically tested, and normed the Terrorism Catastrophizing Scale (TCS) to measure terrorism catastrophizing. In their research, Sinclair and LoCicero (2007) used terror management theory (TMT) and cognitive behavioral theory to understand the psychopathology related to terrorism catastrophizing."
"TMT posits that conscious thoughts of impending death, called mortality salience, becomes ever-present as terrorist events continue throughout the world thus increasing fears of death and as such mortality salience (Pyszczynski, Greenberg, & Solomon, 1999). According to Rosenblatt, Greenberg, Solomon, Pyszczynski, and Lyon (1989), two psychological variables have been documented to reduce mortality salience consisting of self-esteem and cultural worldview. Self-esteem and cultural worldview are important components of TMT..."
Ridiculous. This is more malicious, unecessary and ignorant legislation designed for a feel-good effect. Meanwhile Oakland burns. These regulations are designed not to protect animals but to target a business. The circus (YES, with animals) is a valuable cultural institution which celebrates spectacle, joy, risk, grace, and what a mystery life really is - especially the human-animal interaction. Abuse? I never saw any in my years. Has it happened? Of course! That's why we have adequate laws ON THE BOOKS!
I love the Circus! I am so sick and tired of idiots running this state into the ground. If you don't like the circus don't go I love the circus. Freedom of choice, folks. and before you ask what the animals choice is. The elephants have as much choice as your pet dog or cat. Why do they have a leash?
As always the priorities of this State are ass backwards, which might explain why it's positioned on the USA map as such. Cali is 49th in education spending, yet, spends, over 50K per prison inmate. Yet, these compromised officials want to busy themselves about the concerns of animals whose health care rivals the President's.
Jacqueline's not from around here. Oakland's better than this.
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