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Re: “Artists at Last Night's Oakland Warehouse Fire Discuss The Tragedy, Those Missing, Need for Safe Underground Spaces

Bruce

Two of my friends have likely died.

I have decades of experience on this matter. It is nuanced, conplicated and deeply effects not only the socisl fabric ofbthe bay area, but even the world.

Your words are as ignorant as they are heartless and dangerous.

You are the vangaurd for the unthinking mob. I wager none of my words will likely sway your position, given the lack of forethought apparent in your comment. May you experience in your life something that may pierce your lack of empathy and your dangerous ignorance on this matter.

Posted by Eugene Steele on 12/03/2016 at 7:48 PM

Re: “Artists at Last Night's Oakland Warehouse Fire Discuss The Tragedy, Those Missing, Need for Safe Underground Spaces

Clearly Bruce you have no understanding of what they are referring to as safety. They aren't talking about fire or other building related dangers. They are talking about a place where they are safe from persecution as minorities. Check your privilege.

Posted by Aurora on 12/03/2016 at 7:43 PM

Re: “Artists at Last Night's Oakland Warehouse Fire Discuss The Tragedy, Those Missing, Need for Safe Underground Spaces

Your lack of sympathy is cruel and your laying blame even in a vague way is absolutely not what our or any community needs right now you Idiot. Crawl back into whatever dark hole you came from. No one here wants your smug preaching about consequences.

Posted by vanessa abel on 12/03/2016 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Artists at Last Night's Oakland Warehouse Fire Discuss The Tragedy, Those Missing, Need for Safe Underground Spaces

bruce ferrel. could you possibly be any less sensitive ?
jesus christ . is it absolutely necessary for you to comment negative bullshit ?
there are possibly up to 40 dead people . have some decency ,and shut your troll ass up .
I know its hard , but im assuming youre an adult.. think you can manage ?
or must you mock people who are in deep mourning at any chance you get ,so you can prove how intellectually "superior" you are?
youre a dink

Posted by Jay p Lindy on 12/03/2016 at 7:15 PM

Re: “Artists at Last Night's Oakland Warehouse Fire Discuss The Tragedy, Those Missing, Need for Safe Underground Spaces

"non-permitted residences that host underground shows are often the only safe place... " Wait... safe?! Who will ask the dead how "safe" it was?

a lot of us owe their politics and their musicianship to [Casio]. He emboldens people to break rules. Like fire regulations

" ...Had the potential to be incredible" and was actually risky and deadly. The bottom line; No matter how creative you are, how innovative, The choice to operate outside of the establishment carries possible consequences up to and including death.

The grim reaper isn't racist, isn't gender-ist and doesn't gentrify. He/She/It don't care about any of that or your intentions.

Construct a fire trap, there is an excellent chance of people dying. No matter how "cool the vibe is", the result isn't cool, supportive or nurturing. It's just dead with a lot of people left behind to grieve.

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Posted by Bruce Ferrell on 12/03/2016 at 6:33 PM

Re: “Oakland Warehouse Fire: 'It Was A Tinderbox. I Don't Recollect Anybody Coming Out.'

Garry, were you there? Ever been there, no? STFU then

Posted by Crispin Mccabe on 12/03/2016 at 4:00 PM

Re: “Oakland Warehouse Fire: 'It Was A Tinderbox. I Don't Recollect Anybody Coming Out.'

Kids, plus rave, plus cigarette. plus piles of junk= disaster.

Posted by Garry Ovalbach on 12/03/2016 at 3:45 PM

Re: “Was Operator of Oakland Warehouse Fire Venue 'Warned' of Safety Issues, 'Illegal' Construction, Danger?

I'm in shock, I'm so sorry everyone. I stayed away from satya yuga because of a violent incident I had there a couple years ago and was forced to watch my community to coexist with them despite my warnings and police report. A lot of people are asking if i was there.. I wouldn't have been there if they paid me. My heart is pouring for the lives that are lost and pray for their justice.

Posted by Adriana Sparkuhl on 12/03/2016 at 3:32 PM

Re: “Was Operator of Oakland Warehouse Fire Venue 'Warned' of Safety Issues, 'Illegal' Construction, Danger?

He was warned. I used to live there. Micah hiscwife and he are fucking crimanals and now murderers. That place was a hell hole and death trap with massive housing and fire code violations illegal electrical hook ups and heat intermittently. Not for for humans but they keep their kids there without coats n shoes in freezing weather. Eating randomly. Exposed to all kinds of criminal fucked up shit. They knew about the violations, lied and stole from tenants to get $$$ improvements spent in drugs. Had their kids taken away because of it. Gun play and police regularly. Stolen merchandise always. Took them to buy groceries that stole hats n chocolate. Fuck Derik and Micah they deserve the same thing the dead got and their kids deserve better. The dead deserved better. And people on here worried about them and their shit lives. Fuck them.

Posted by Shelley Mack on 12/03/2016 at 3:19 PM

Re: “Oakland Warehouse Fire: 'It Was A Tinderbox. I Don't Recollect Anybody Coming Out.'

Excellent reporting - thank you for this

Posted by Kerry Hamill on 12/03/2016 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

Is he doing this to attract arson and therefore have the house burned down to collect insurance?

Posted by Santiago Rizzo on 12/03/2016 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Local Green Energy Authority Quietly Launches in Alameda County

Quietly? The Local Clean Energy Alliance has been organizing for this program for years!

Posted by Jessica Tiahui on 12/03/2016 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

Imagine if the landlord spent as much time and effort protecting a human being as he has that Trump sign...sigh.

Posted by Charlie Gall on 12/03/2016 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Oaklanders: Next Police Chief Needs to 'Clear Out Bad Apples'

P. Stokes: "The writer is reporting on the results of a survey, not advocating any particular approach."

The survey is, in itself, an approach to solving the problem of reforming or reorganizing OPD. A thoughtful writer might simply make the point that there could be (I would say should be) other approaches.

As you put it "Who would want the job?" Clearly the Oakland Mayor doesn't want the job of reforming or reorganizing OPD so she decides to pass the chore on to yet another chief. A chief who will come and go and thus there will be no change.

Posted by Hobart Johnson on 12/03/2016 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

This is a flagrant act of unlawful harassment, discrimination and even a borderline Hate Crime.

A lawsuit is definitely in order. If not (as an absolute last resort with nothing else left to lose) burning the property down in an act of civil disobedience.

Posted by alpha omega on 12/03/2016 at 6:50 AM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

This sucks for all parties involved. For the tenant, it's impossible to find decent, affordable housing in the Bay. It would also suck to have to live in a place with a TRUMP sign stuck to it (yes, even Trump Tower).

While this new landlord sounds like a royal a$$, we have to remember a couple of things:
1. He does own the property
2. There is no right to affordable housing
3. When it's convenient for an entity (public or private), the entity will shut down an "illegal" or non-registered unit
4. Rent control is fantastic in theory, but it really does distort the market in a coveted location city
5. The current housing frenzy is part of a larger cycle that cannot be changed by one or two good-meaning rules
6. We all pay for rent control, and we, as a society, have to decide how and how much we are willing to pay
7. Real estate companies are like any other company - they're there to make money
8. The new arrivals to Oakland have generally been making it a much nicer, safer and more livable city (despite higher housing costs). I've only been here for 10 years and have seen enormous positive changes. We still have a long way to go, though.

Finally, I personally hate hearing statements about how, "I should be able to live here because I grew up here" or other arguments in that vein. Nobody has a right to live in any particular city nor should anyone be excluded from a particular city because of some accident of birth.

Posted by greg broderick on 12/03/2016 at 1:33 AM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

Get a lawyer and contact rso and call the city and have them inspect to see if it is he is old and only 3500 to relocate hell no

Posted by Jackson Janet on 12/02/2016 at 9:51 PM

Re: “Art Gallery Grifter: How White Walls Owner Justin Giarla Scammed Artists Out Of Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars, Then Disappeared

What a loser piece of shit! Using people is bad enough but fucking with their art is deplorable. His ass deserves prison time for sure. Karma will follow.

Posted by nanabriggs on 12/02/2016 at 9:50 PM

Re: “Oakland Landlord Evicts Tenant, Then Hangs Pro-Trump Billboard on Building

He should call Tobeners Oakland office stat. They are tenant only and deal with Bornstein aaall the time...

Posted by Heather Madison on 12/02/2016 at 9:32 PM

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