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I have made this place a regular weekly excursion. Food is delish.
Well, Sam, he already had the space and has been operating there since well before Uber decided to move there. That area serves a lot of people, not just the new white folk. I applaud Patterson for learning more about the community he serves, closing the pricey destination Plum restaurant (yes, Plumbar is still there, a scaled back version with more affordable food), and trying something that might actually appeal to the broader base of customers in that area. As to the "he is only employing people to help make his profit" ...well, yes. But a lot of hot Oakland restaurants are not at all concerned with employing or training people in the actual community, or providing healthy, tasty, affordable food. Could he change his business model and do more? Maybe. But he could have bailed on Oakland entirely and instead is is doing something.
Why all the hate? I tell you what, when someone, maybe you Sam, can open a healthy, cheap, profit sharing, community, sustainable, local, unionized, happy happy fast food joint, I will be the first to go. But until then, I'm heading to Local. It's a fantastic vision & we should all support it. And if Patterson & Choi make a few bucks along the way, don't they kind of deserve it? I mean, I hope they do well so they will keep the vision going & who knows? Maybe they will convert to employee owned in the future.
It won't happen if we throw a bunch of hate on them & they fail. So, I say, go!
I am very excited to try LocoL but my only question is why is the price for everything in the Oakland storefront one dollar more than everything at the Watts location? I feel as though they are trying to exploit the tech profits of the bay area. A dollar may not be a huge difference to the new influx of gentrification but to the original inhabitants of Oakland a dollar can make a big decision on where they spend their money. Especially if you're trying to feed a low-income family which I feel is their mission.
Michael's comment proves it - Tea Party Republican folks love LOCOL! haha
Sam-profit is good. The only obligation of a business is to obey the law-health codes, minimum wage requirements, and pay taxes to the minimum levels needed and make a return for their investors. Their menu, their locations, and their slogans is their own business, not the damn government's or these elusive "communities" people proclaim. I'm a teacher- don't eat out much, but like simple and low priced food.
had dinner there last night, olivetos, with my family! Bravissimo! Incredible meats, pastas, etc. For a special occasion or just for the hell of it, this is the place to go. Very nice and quiet upstairs with terrific service. That young chef, jonah, cooks beyond his years.
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I'm really confused about what their "revolution" means...
Is it a stretch to think they are using vague positive, social slogans to simply push their brand? How well would a new low production cost fast-food franchise do these days, especially in CA without dropping vague slogans like "building community", "empowering", and so forth? What do they actually mean? My guesses:
It seems like they kinda use Republican "job creator" rhetoric as one of their benefits. What's going on here is that you are paying people to make profit for you. If this was purely about "community", you'd use a cooperative ownership model. But, nah, it is about profit...even if they pay their workers slightly more than minimum wage.
Next, you dropped one of your initial locations in arguably the most white, gentrified area in Oakland (a block from the new Uber HQ). There are loads of restaurants affordable to techies and hospital execs who live and work around here. If part of Locol's mission is about solving the food desert issue, why build one of your few locations in one of the richest parts of the Bay Area?
The whole line about "teaching job skills" is also bogus. Every company from Walmart to TGI Fridays acts like employees who are underpaid and don't benefit from profit sharing are actually "developing job skills" or whatever. Bogus corporate sloganeering that actually means "you are benefiting from exploitation."
Not selling sodas, and the political discussion on "soda taxes" is paternalistic and frequently has racist undertones. Another item that I wouldn't say is suspect at best and far from "revolutionary."
Without any clear benefit to any of the Bay Area's most deserving communities, their "revolution" seems like nothing more than to make the owners rich. Revolutionizing their pocket books.
Great review on LocoL. It's very cool to see new retail food business find success in areas like Oakland. Here's a few tips on opening a retail food business: https://businessfirstfamily.com/retail-food-business/
Thanks for sharing,
The food was as described bland for the price. Burger & Fries with Club Soda ( no refill) was $18 + some change before tip. I ate at the bar. I did not think the food was worth the money. But then I am 67 and do not know who the target market is.
Go again, Michael. Every restaurant, as you mention, takes a couple months to hit its stride. It's coming up on a year now and the service and most of the food offerings are wonderful. I go all the time and take all my friends. We love it. Don't miss the amazing garlic cucumbers, but don't eat them before a date...unless your date is going to eat them, too!
The veganism of hipster bearded gentrification.
So overrated. I find it so odd that so many people are falling all over themselves to heap praise on this food. Everything at the Butchers Son tastes exactly the same. And does a real NY Deli charge $9+ for a bagel with a couple pathetic toppings?
And while the taqueria does much better, especially with regards to price, the well to do white kids waiting in line kinda takes away the idea that you're magically being transported to Fruitvale...
Glad there is algerian food around , it has been 4 months for me here , struggling to cook algerian recepes, I live in oakland and I will definitely pass by for couscous and mhajeb, I'm from setif by the way , good luck guys and I'm really proud of you
I liked the Greek place, but since now gone, decided to check-out the new. Appreciate that Butcher's Son is giving neighborhood vegans a fun alternative to Herbivore for faux philly cheese steak and other faux meaty goodness. EXCEPT: over-priced AND got a big hair (not mine) in half my sandwich. Was hair of man doing food prep in area behind cash register/ordering counter--YUCK! I didn't say anything at the time because needed to shortly leave and they were in midst of lunch rush. TIP: coffee is free refills if you drink it there. Vegan donuts they make onsite were tasty, not sure how compares to Pepples.
I usually agree with you, Luke, but the Butcher's Son is way overblown. I much preferred the humble Greek place that left - their meatball sub blew this one away.
Estos tacos son una delicia, además están preparados con toda limpieza. Las salsas me encantaron. Arturo
Thanks guys and welcome
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Place with be closed by the end of the year.
Just like a dozen or more places on Telegraph in that area.
We're not at SF levels of densely to support all the semi-high priced restaurants. You can't walk out of a place like that for two and spend less than 50 with a tip.
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