Fantastic. !!! Down with the clown till I'm dead in the ground. People love to point and stare.... its the same as everywhere.. icp helped me and my family(sisters and my dad) bond when we were teens. Been down since 95. My dad is Willie Bubba. He's a truck driver. We dipped out from his job and took the semi truck to a show once. He got paid to go with me to the wicked clowns from outer space tour. In Lawrence KS.
Whoop Whoop! Mcl!
MCL there are no rules to be a Juggalo you dont have to like the music or every artist on or off the label or know the lyrics to every song you just are or arent if that makes since. Im 30 years old first genaration Juggalo since 95 and always will be. If u like us great if not good for u we dont hate u we except everyone for who they are.
I wonder if this lady knew the story behind ICP if she would still think the music is horrible.
How many people read the book BEHIND THE PAINT? If you did then you would realize Violent J and Shaggy are religious and so is their music. A lot of their songs talk about going to heaven and believing in god.
If you don't believe me read the book and then listen to the last song on Shangri-La the wraith. Its called the unveiling.
I'm not religious in the slightest sense of the word, but when I found out that they were it made me respect them even more.
I got mad respect for you guys.
MMFWCL to all the 'los and 'lettes !!!
Last Oct I went to my first ICP show. I've been down since I was 15. After all the years and abuse i recieved for liking them and their music I was a closet addict to them. I got up my nerve to go, by myself, in detroit and all i heard were comments about how dangerous it was. Im not even 5ft 100 lbs and female. It was the nicest group of ppl i have ever seen at a concert (and i go to a LOT) just alot of general good humor and true excitement. I got so caught up in the show I forgot i even had a drink in my hand. These are amazing ppl with (i think) amazing and valuable music.
Very nice to see some honest and decent press about our fam! I have been down for 14 years now and on early have no idea where I would be in life if I wasn't.. All I know is I can go I vacation walk around shout out two whoops and BOOM I have fam to chill with almost instantly now you tell me what other "fan club" has that much instant love for one another whoop whoop all mmfwcl mad love for this article
off the subject of the article but i think its bullshit that fbi say juggalos are a gang..been a fan since 95 and my 15 and 13 yrd old are juggalos so i guess we just a family of gangs..its bullshit and btw my kids had a blast in flagstaff sunday night..whoop whoop
A true Juggalo is someone that accepts people for who they are, not what they have to offer. I personally know Juggalos and Juggalettes that fit into some of the highest categories AND some that are homeless, but all the same, they are all accepting of everyone. and as many have said in the comments above, Juggalos are not a "gang", but more like a giant family!I have personally been a Juggalo since the day I was born, and I will be until I die, simply because of the widespread acceptance that Juggalos have for anyone that is cool with them. I personally love the music, but have never been to a show...but that doesn't make me less of a Juggalo. I personally think that if you think you are a Juggalette (the female version of a Juggalo), you should listen to some of the lyrics in a lot of the songs, because they actually have meaning, and they can - believe it or not - teach long lasting life lessons. It's not about the merchandise, it's about the atmosphere.
Mhoop Whoop, my ninja!
Oh, and if you'd like to talk about ICP and feminism, I'd love for the chance to elaborate. drop me a line @arainbowinblack on twitter.
First and foremost, thank you for writing this and talking about how much fun an ICP show can be and what the experience was like for you. I really appreciated it. I want to address something you said, though.
I don't think ICP are misogynistic. I identify as a feminist as well and have been a juggalo for 17 years. I'm 31. I'm an artist.
What people don't understand about ICP is that they are an art group that isn't out there making music for you feel catharsis to. They use the words bitch and faggot quite a bit, they talk about violence, they sound like music that you expect knuckle dragging cave men to listen to. It's not like Death Metal where you are letting go of your aggression. They're telling stories, sometimes horror, sometimes comedic, sometimes... something else. A lot of us first bump ICP because we think "cool, I can blow off steam" but then we listen to what is actually being said - and not the way it is being said - and we either stick with it (juggalos) or we drop it like it's hot (non juggalos). If all you want is violence and gore and sexism, there are a million rappers out there doing it. ICP use those things to talk about spirituality, "family" and what it means to be "good".
Calling them misogynistic because they say bitch is a huge mistake. You're writing off someone who is actively teaching young men to value and respect women regardless of their dress size or weight or whatever. You're actively writing off someone who speaks out against domestic violence and rape.
If you're only going to read into the surface, they might sound pretty sexist. I agree. My first time hearing "Hate Her To Death" really got to me. But then I started thinking about it in the context of the album The Mighty Death Pop. The video ends with the boy crumpling up a drawing of a girl that he's basically been obsessing over. He has killed a couple of boys who bully him and it looks like he is going to kill her too. This sounds terrible, but in the context of the Mighty Death Pop, it makes sense. The album is about how negative emotions can take over and if we allow those negative emotions to run wild, we will push ourselves towards a "catastrophic demise".
Also, it's easy to assume that ICP fans are all midwestern men when the pictures we see are from the gathering. The gathering is in the midwest. There are juggalos all over the world who identify in many different social classes.
again, thanks for the great piece. I hope you go back and listen to their albums with an open mind. Maybe try to see in their music what we see. We see inspiration. We see permission to be ourselves no matter what. We see a call to treat EVERYBODY like family.
I just want to say, that as a stay at home mom of two and also been down since 03, Its nice to see you enjoyed yourself. We are a family, not a gang, and the rep we get is understandable if you just look at the media's attention on us. There is no stereotypical juggalo. We don't fit in a box, and there is no putting us in any sort of demographic. We are low-lifes and accountants, men and women, white and black, big and small, angry and happy. At a show, we are nothing else but family. I'm happy you got to experience one of our 'Sunday Dinners' and I hope you consider going again. As a woman, I would like you to listen closely to the lyrics they have and maybe rethink the misogynist stand-point. They don't hate on just women, they hate on everyone for one reason or another. Thats the comedy in it, not really hate, just poking fun at every demographic. Its all in good fun. Juggalo's are jokers by nature. Welcome to our world. :-)
Finally somebody who understands the culture even if for just a few minutes. And that's the beauty of being a juggalo. I've met some great friends and true Juggalos only been to one or two shows. I've been down since 1994, and therefore have seen a lot of shit come and go. I've heard all the mainstream media bash Juggalos as violent angry people, and even have had to deal with the FBI labeling me as a gang member because of my hatchet man tattoo. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have a masters degree I'm working a high-level office position. Hopefully more mainstream media will go to a show, and then share their opinion. It's the only true way to remove the ignorance and stigma around basically a group of people who just enjoy the same music and the company of one another, and every now and again a faygo bomb to the face. Thank you for the article, hopefully it'll open the minds of others.
i say the thing about everyone worldwide is theres a lil bit of juggalo in all of us i think it was cool for you to go out n be sumwut shocked of what our world is about not all are as accepting and what not but was an amazing artical n lyk they say never judge a book by its cover we may be known as a gang in some towns or cities but theres a fair amount that dont claim that and may hate it but you kno its all negative press saying that if it werent for the negative press the inside wouldnt be as warm as it is ive never judged anyone n nor will i sumtimes people just have to find their own kinda shit you know i been down since i was 7 n still down im 25 so ive been here for awhile hahaha anyways you have a good day
as a longtime supporter of them and also a college educated, gainfully employed, never arrested adult i applaud this article. Its good to see some positive press about them. Go to any metal,alternative,or god forbid hip hop show and try to talk to people in line, you might get a few people who will open up and be friendly, but most people will clam up and immediately shun you. At a ICP/Juggalo event its quite a different story, if you are cool they are cool and its a good atmosphere. Its just a bunch of people having a good time, and its a shame that simple minded elitists thumb their noses and assume that they are somehow better then the motley assortment of humanity in line at a ICP show. Plus i defy you to go to any other show and see a more theatrical,intricately planned show, dont go for the music, go for the spectacle, which has always been what the "Carnival" is about. They are the first to admit that they arent great musicians, they are entertainers, and by god they are professional ones.
well Caleb, let me tell you this, you arent a fuckin juggalo just cause you go to 1000 fucking shows. you can be a juggalo and NEVER go to a show. being a juggalo isnt about how much fucking merch you wear. it isnt about how many shows or gatherings you get to go to. Its about finding music and family in a place you never expected. Its about ACCEPTANCE of EVERYONE and its about the abolishment of hate, bigotry and intolerance. Its about feeling alone it the world and finding out you arent. And above and beyond ALL of that, its about LOVE!!! You dont have to like the music or be a fan. You sir, have MUCH to learn about being a Juggalo. Judged Under Gods Grace And Love Only.
Ellen, I am glad you were shown a bit of the real side of being a juggalo and what we are really about. I am especially proud that not only did you go to an event expecting it to suck and found yourself having fun, no , that part is great, but what is especially awesome is that you were willing to admit that you enjoyed it IN SPITE OF you expectations and then you get on here and admit it, and share with some of the "normal" public your experience. Thanks for your openess and honesty!!! 2 whoops and Much Clown Love!!!
whoop whoop i love the friendly nees of the fans and the band that is waht drew me in and i been down now for 14 years the friends i made and the only ones that have stood the test of time are my juggalo family they are the best. and dude dont hate juggalos are not about hate she finally found a amazing group of people and juggalo isnt about the amount of shows you go to or the songs you know it is about being one a family without hate or direspect, or discrimination really everyone and anyone can be a juggalo as long as you leave all the negitive out. remember juggalos are a family not a group of haters.
Whoop whoop yo!
not a fucking juggalo if u go to one event
Whoop whoop my ninjas......
Whoop! Whoop! Mad Clown Love to all my Family out there! Violent J does the best interviews. Btw, that's not going to be enough... Send your Moms right down to the store. Tell that bitch to bring home some Faygo!
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