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Re: “Dance with Your Arms Up at 'Hairy Pits'

<3 Thank you for this write up! <3

Posted by Tasha Yar on 10/20/2016 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Boycotters Accuse 924 Gilman St. Project of Ethical Backslide

Hey, I'm a very old Gilman person. I go back almost, but not quite as far as Kamala. I completely disagree with the approach that takes hold at Gilman from time to time of trying to correct the worlds problems by policing the bands on the stage.
I disagree with a lot of the more offensive things that Mike Avilez and Sammytown say. But they are songs, not actual criminal acts. Mike is someone I consider a friend. I've put on shows with him. And when his bands played certain fucked up songs, I called him out for it. I never pulled a stunt like cutting the the power to the PA or turning up the house lights. I told him to his face that I found a song offensive.

Mike is also someone who has put a ton of work into putting on shows all over the Bay Area. Many in bars like the Stork Club but also in underground venues like Burnt Ramen.
His bans invariably suck, but the boy has heart.

Punk is offensive. It is crude. It has ugly warty nasty parts. It always has. If you clean up all the bands so that they can't say or do anything offensive, you have a nice polite, staid situation, which is not what those originators of punk were ever about.
Could Patti Smith play "Rock and Roll Nigger" at Gilman?
Could The Dead Kennedys play "Kill the poor", "I kill children" or pretty much half of their songs on their first two records?

That said, gay, black, trans, women, latino, and asian people should feel welcome at Gilman. Punk is too often a bunch of white boys beating their brains out and acting like macho dorks.
In my interpretation of the Gilman rules we did not tolerate fascist, racist or homophobic bullying. But you can say anything you want.
Which as Jesse relates, often amounted to not allowing people with rebel flag patches in the door.

After all Gilman is mostly young teen age people, who are figuring out who they are. You might see a kid with a mohawk one week, skinhead the next week, and skater a month later. I don't think it''s right to be ordaining rigid rules and policies in very important meetings at what is basically the longest running cool kid clubhouse east of the Mississippi.

And seriously, it is just a dumb fucking clubhouse. Oh no, you might get 86-ed! I did!

Posted by Russ D on 10/08/2016 at 12:39 AM

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