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Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
"Haag hasn't said what she is after..", Do we need two guesses? Do we need even one guess?
Lets face it, even State Attorneys have every intention to use this method, the method of the Federal practice of complete lack of transparency.
Lets assume that 'stuff' rolls downhill. We can also assume that as a measure of Appointee description, appointees are following that which engender possible continued employment under their training from the appointer and that the appointer is the avenue towards advancement to the 'show', Federal appointment purely at the Federal level such as directly at the DOJ or cross entry into other bureaucracies at the Federal level.
No one should assume that Haag or her cohorts in any State will do anything but follow ONDCP policy. The mandate. The only way towards Mj inclusion is resistance to the misguided and corrupted ONDCP policies in each State.
Vote folks, vote your butts off.
Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya”
Yeah butane hash is definitely sketchy to make and should not be done without extreme caution. There are a few decent videos on you tube. H20 bubble bags do work well (as was mentioned above). With the water bags you risk making a mess vs. blowing up your house:) Also you are using 100% unmodified ingredients which is always a positive. If we used logic we would allow people/or business to get licensed in order to make the hashish using the more dangerous methods.
For more on CA MMJ operations and laws visit us at http://www.californiadispensaryinfo.com/
Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya”
In our state a lab is permitted and regulated. You can see clearly that labs are important and extracting and isolating chemicals for proper dosage are simply the best way to treat a patient for a specific illness. If you need a hydrocarbon or any non polar solvent to extract out the oils and most if not all that can be used are flammable I would suspect that the terms chemical or flammable would not be proper in legal definitions. Fragrances, flavorings, essential oils, biofuel medicine homeopathic or allopathic are all extracted using various flammable solvents chemicals. Solvent meaning a liquid that can dissolve another liquid or solid.
It is very obvious that a permit that is regulated should be in force, not more laws that prohibit a solvent or chemical that would obviously be ignored or would push the manufacturing into a different maybe more dangerous, more toxic or less controllable direction. A state needs to step up to the plate and satisfy demand where it exist when the lives and health of people are at stake. Butane, propane, hexane etc has been used for decades to produce everything you use daily just about. It is not about the solvent. It is about those easy to access large quantities of disposable butane canisters and open to atmosphere extraction processes called tubes that are used when "blasting"
High Pressure CO2 and Tamisium Extractors are closed systems and are the only alternative. CO2 does not eliminate the need for flammable solvents. On the contrary it would be combined with propane, hexane or butane to increase its efficiency of extracting out the oils. So you just cant get away from flammable when dealing with lab processes. It is about the process and equipment when searching for a safer solution
Should consumers be forced to acquire medicine from another city or state or should a simple process for safe regulations be created and put into effect that would allow more jobs to be created, more fees and taxes to be paid to a starving state.
The bottom line is that it will not go away and will cost more to stop it than to make it safe and useful.
Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya”
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Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
If we were to go after something that causes death every few minutes, then we really would be helping the people but no one wants to go after it cause it would effect all politicians and just about every American. They holler about the guns killing people in a drive by, that shooter had so much ammunition and bombs in the trunk of there car, that guy was drinking and driving, the bikers need helmets cause the driver in the car couldn't see the 800 lbs of motorcycle, the rapist kidnapped raped and transferred the body and is now on the run in his Chevrolet to the border, hit and run. Are you all getting the picture now? What's in every one of those problems? Now if we removed the most dangerous thing, THERE WOULD BE NO DRIVE BYS. THERE WOULD BE KNOW PLACE TO STOCK UP WITH AMMUNITION TO KEEP USING, THERE WOULD BE. KNOW WAY TO GRAB SOMEONE OR RUN TO BORDER, THERE WOULD BE NO HIT AND RUN.
WON'T SAY KNOW MORE AS THIS WOULD EFFECT ME ALSO BUT IF WE COULD ALL JUST MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS. EVERY ONE HAS SOMETHING THEY ARE STRONGLY AGAINST WELL TO BAD IF YOU DARE GO AFTER SOMETHING OF MINE I WILL GO AFTER SOMETHING OF YOURS. AND THATS PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON NOW. CARS WOW THEY ARE INVOLVED IN MOST EVERYTHING BUT WOULD THE POLITICIANS GO AFTER THE CAR? RIGHT THATS DEAR TO THEM
Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
fuck the fed
Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
How about focusing on crimes that have actual victims and stop bothering people who already have problems with medical issues.
Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
DECLARATION OF RIGHTS OF CANNABIS USERS
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world.
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people.
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law.
Whereas for too long now it has been observed that disregard and contempt for human rights has been allowed to exist in the body of politically motivated law that outlaws the possession, cultivation and use of cannabis by adults.
The signatories of this Declaration wish to live in peace in this society, have been engaged in constant communication with their elected representatives individually or as part of groups.
The actions of the government in this regards demonstrates continued contempt and disregard that we the undersigned feel that we have NO RECOURSE but to regard our government and some of our fellow citizens as hostile towards our declared rights and indifferent to the tyranny, oppression and terrorism that we have too long had to deal with.
Whereas by this declaration we provide the opportunity and impudence for representatives to engage in good faith negotiations which will lead to peaceful co-exisistance.
Whereas we the undersigned do hereby declare that IT IS OUR RIGHT to cultivate, possess and use cannabis AND that any law that says otherwise will be treated by us as the tool of tyranny.
Whereas we the undersigned in declaring our desire to realize our liberties and our desire to live in peace also recognize that the point is near where our rights and liberties will have to be defended.
Whereas we the undersigned are willing to do all we can to avoid conflict we hope that this WARNING also provides our fellow citizens and our representatives the impudence to also seek peace and understanding within our society.
SIGNED:
TO: ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES
Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
The people have cast their votes. They are tired of suffering and/or watching their family member or friends suffer from chronic pain due to:
AIDS/HIV
Alzheimer’s Disease
Appetite or Nausea
Arthritis
Asthma and other breathing disorders
Cancer
Chemotherapy
Chronic and severe pain
Crohn’s disease and other Gastrointestinal disorders
Epilepsy or seizures
Glaucoma
Hepatitis C
Migraine Headaches
Multiple Sclerosis
Psychological conditions
Tourette’s syndrome
Terminally ill patients
just to name a few. There is irrefutable scientific evidence that Medical Marijuana is effective in treating these and many more diseases and disorders. Put our tax dollars to work in a manner that is conducive to the U.S. Constitution and protecting the citizens rights and safety in this country. Mr. President; if Michelle is suffering from chronic pain due to cancer will you deny her access to treatment?
Re: “Feds' Medical Pot Fishing Expedition Hits Mendocino Chop”
The vote of the people , Hello , wake up, this is still America the last time i looked
Re: “Berkeley Patients Group, Unbowed”
I was a cab driver for Oaklands Metro Cab back in 91, 92 and 93. Back then the strip was the destination of sailors from Alameda Naval Air Station, bars, card parlors and cheap motels. The prostitutes were very apparent on Sunday mornings while I delivered Little Old Ladies to their long-time churches. Some drivers had regular customers who were Johns and hookers. I took a few to their homes myself, sometimes the side trips would be to feed their drug habits. That area was border-line Oakland-Berkeley so cops did not cover it too well. After BPG cleaned up the property at their original site, their neighbors began to visually improve their appearance as well.
For more important news, the planet we know will cease, unless GEO-ENGINEERING is recognized as the number 1 threat to all life. Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering (SAG), Solar Remediation Management (SRM) Nexrad and HAARP manipulating our climate to the point of no return. The alumina sulfate alone is enough to poison outdoor grown vegetation, including all cannabis and hemp. Not to forget how the radiation contamination of all our pasture lands for dairy, which is showing up in concentrations that bio-accumulate in all the things we eat.
Re: “The Crackdown Takes a Hit”
Really makes you feel safe to know that the people who are supposed to protect you are abusing their power to ignore the law and do what they want... including robbing sick people... I really wonder what kind of mindset there men have to twist the law to lock up people who are not even breaking the law, apparently because they are biased against a safe medicine that you cannot OD on, yet then go sit in a bar after work drinking a recreational poision that can and has killed millions of americans through alcohol poisioning, liver disease, car accidents and fights.
Re: “Berkeley Patients Group, Unbowed”
If you're going to blanket characterize a neighborhood, at least get it something close to right. I live about three blocks away from BPC and regularly walk home at night right past it. So I am puzzled by the description of the neighborhood involving "drug dealers and prostitutes" roaming the area at night. I hardly see any other people PERIOD, let alone "drug dealers and prostitutes" wandering about with impunity. And in the past two years I am fairly sure that I have never seen any sort of activity involving prostitution.
Oh, and the "decrepit foam factory" is actually a well-kept store that sells and restuffs furniture (I've bought a mattress cover from them). And the "salvage yard" is Ohmega Salvage, who are actually pretty high-end (I've met more than one San Franciscan who says they got their beautiful antique statuary, doors, or mantles from Ohmega). "Blighted," right.
Re: “Berkeley Patients Group, Unbowed”
After living in Oakland for 32 years and being a frequent customer at BPG I know for a fact that the neighborhood they were in was improved tremendously and any place they occupy will reap the benefits of their presence. BPG can hardly be held accountable for the well-known San Pablo Blvd. with all it`s prostitutes and drug problems.
Re: “Berkeley Patients Group, Unbowed”
I'm stunned that EBX didn't put in fine print "this is a paid for advertisement." This article is the biggest bunch of marketing BS. EBX should be ashamed to call itself an alternative news source.
It was the state of CA that forced the pollution cleanup on that site, a few years ago, not BPG. As far as BPG being a good neighbor, that remains to be proven. They've only been open since December 2012. As far as BPG contributing to the security of the area, where's the statistical proof to back up that flimsy claim?!
Here are the crime stats from December 1 - Feb 21 in the area that BPG is located. Looks to me like BPG isn't doing much to contribute to "security."
http://www.crimemapping.com/map.aspx?ll=-13613219.611957448,4560026.159086108&z=14&mc=world-street&cc=AR,AS,BU,DP,DR,DU,FR,HO,VT,RO,SX,TH,VA,VB,WE&db=12/01/2012&de=2/21/2013&loc=2366+San+Pablo+Ave,+Berkeley,+CA,+94710&br=0.5
Also see this:
http://www.crimemapping.com/advancedTrendReport.aspx?db=12/01/2012+00:00:00&de=2/21/2013+23:59:00&ccs=AR,AS,BU,DP,DR,DU,FR,HO,VT,RO,SX,TH,VA,VB,WE&add=2366 San Pablo Ave, Berkeley, CA, 94710&bcy=4560131.259999998&bcx=-13613300.826299999&br=0.5&xmin=-13619334.574220253&ymin=4557670.943152075&xmax=-13607104.649694642&ymax=4562381.375020142
All this "article" is about is alerting people to the new location & providing lengthy advertisement for BPG with some skewed positive PR spin. I only have one question for EBX and the author of this marketing smoke and mirrors write up -- "How much did you charge BPG for this so called 'article?'"
Re: “Berkeley Patients Group, Unbowed”
I went to the old site and was impressed but this looks much safer!
Re: “How To Talk To a Cop About Pot”
ITS ABOUT TIME.... not only pot but addressing the entire substance abuse problems.. these people ARE NOT CRIMINALS until they have to resort to other means of finding help.. RE OPEN MENTAL HEALTH CENTERS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE WITH ALL THE WASTED MONEY ON CHASING KIDS WITH DRUG PROBLEMS AND THROWING THEM IN JAIL AND REALLY MAKING THEM LOST AND HOPELESS 'CRIMINALS" I AM IN FULL AND OPEN SUPPORT OF LEAP
Re: “How To Talk To a Cop About Pot”
Chris Stehlik:
I totally agree that marijuana use should be treated as a health problem and not a crime. I do question some of your other statements, however.
It is not at all clear that marijuana use would increase under a system of legal regulated sale. You are making the assumption that it would, but the evidence we have suggests otherwise. You undoubtedly know that cannabis use is tolerated in the Netherlands; their rate of use is about half what ours is. As their minister of health explained it, "We've managed to make pot boring." Portugal decriminalized all drug use a few years ago...and saw rates of use drop. There is an obvious explanation. To buy a legal regulated product, e.g. alcohol, you need to be of age and prove it. To buy marijuana, or anything else the guy on the corner is selling, all you need money.
The health issues of marijuana are both considerably better understood and considerably less worrisome than you suggest. The government has funded studies of marijuana and health for years, feverishly trying to find something -- anything -- dangerous about using marijuana. There isn't much. About the only thing directly attributable to marijuana use is bronchial irritation. It can also be a colossal waste of time, but all indications are that physically it is far less dangerous than tobacco. Marijuana use does not cause cancer -- in fact, it may prevent some cancers.
Re: “A Little Dab Could Doom Ya”
Straight from the opinion:
"Section 11358, in contrast, could potentially apply to any number of possible
alternative methods for producing concentrated cannabis. Prosecution under section
11358 would be appropriate, for example, if the resin was physically extracted from the
marijuana plant through pressure, through a screening process, or by using an ice water
method to produce the concentrated cannabis. Similarly, section 11358 would properly
apply to the production of concentrated cannabis if the method used was instead by
leaching the resin from the plant material by dissolving it in a nonchemical lipid
extractor, such as butter."
Section 11358 "Every person who plants, cultivates, harvests, dries, or
processes any marijuana or any part thereof, except as otherwise
provided by law, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to
subdivision (h) of Section 1170 of the Penal Code."
215 patients are exempt from this section that this opinion is designating for other methods that are not butane. It basically states that butane extraction falls under Section 11379.6, making it illegal. And other methods fall under section 11358 which 215 are exempt. So no, people will not start getting arrested for making bubble hash as this opinion clearly just defined it under a law 215 holders are exempt.
yay?!