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Re: “Caffe Trieste

Hi All,
Thanks for your enlightening comments, which have helped draw by attention to this long-expired, three-year-old calendar listing. You get one more week to beat me up before I delete it.
All best,
Rachel Swan

Posted by Rachel Swan on 10/22/2009 at 11:16 AM

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It is unfortunate that the author of this post is such a dud. Caffe Trieste must be a bit irritated that their business has now been linked with a snarly point of view and an unpleasant and off-putting dismissal of a pastime.

True enough, knitting isn't terribly flashy, and it's awfully mundane, but neither of those negate its relevance; they simply negate it to the author. It will continue to be relevant to those who take part in it. Much the same way that DIY roofing, ikebana arranging, soapmaking and yes, even macrame are relevant to those enthusiasts.

It really is too bad that the author wasn't skilled enough with satire or tongue-in-cheek to make this post funny, because all he has succeeded in doing is overtly insulting a pretty large group of people, and backhandedly doing so to several others. i have a feeling the knit night won't be very well attended.

Posted by kristine on 10/22/2009 at 11:15 AM

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"Since it doesn't require as much time, patience, or dexterity as, say, making flower arrangements, spackling a roof, or cleaning your own house..."

Not to insult flower arrangers, roof spacklers (whatever that might mean) or cleaners but this is just the most ridiculous sentence I have ever read.

Has the writer of this article ever seen a piece of knitted clothing, let alone seen anyone knit anything?

Even a simple pair of fingerless mittens or a plain scarf will take several evenings for most knitters. Some intricate knitted items can take a month or more to complete. I can slap together a flower arrangement (hardly florist quality, but whatever) in about 15 minutes!


Posted by Belinda Robinson on 10/22/2009 at 10:58 AM

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That was a horrible way to be introduced to your newspaper. The misinformation in that article was amazing. I hope that you realize that this is being read all over the wold thanks to the knitting community. This is a sad commentary on the unschooled non-knitting public. I would hope this reporter gets repremanded strongly.

Posted by Kelly G on 10/22/2009 at 10:21 AM

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As everything in life, knitting is what you make of it. Your dismissive and even hostile attitude says a lot more about you than it does about knitting and knitters.

If *you* can't be bothered to care about it more than spackling a roof (what does that even mean?), that's your issue. There are countless people out there creating works of great intricacy, creativity, and beauty. Some practical, some whimsical, some based on traditions that are hundreds of years old, some using new and innovative techniques. You certainly have no obligation to participate, but if you're going to write about it, you at least have an obligation to educate yourself first.

By the way, the phrase "Stitch & Bitch" has been around for decades longer than the book franchise. A little research goes a long way.

Posted by woolwoman on 10/22/2009 at 10:11 AM

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What a ridiculous article. Besides coming across as written from someone who has knitting envy coupled with mass consumption disease, it's very poorly researched. There are lots of men who knit, not just women. My boyfriend learned from me but could've learned it from his dad as easily.
In addition, knitting is an artform. Surely arts aren't seen as 'rustic'?
A quick internet search would've helped this writer immensely

I bet the poor author wears walmart socks.....


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Posted by rewselene aka laurie on 10/22/2009 at 9:34 AM

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If it takes you longer to clean your house than to knit a sweater, you must have one dirty house. Just sayin'...

Posted by Susan Santos on 10/22/2009 at 8:50 AM

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"Since it doesn't require as much time, patience, or dexterity as, say, making flower arrangements, spackling a roof, or cleaning your own house..."

Spackling a roof? Really? I didn't know that roofs were spackled. Walls and ceilings, yes -- but roofs?

"Editor's Note: Comments are not edited or fact-checked by the East Bay Express."

Although the Editor isn't "fact-checking" these comments, perhaps it would be prudent to "fact-check" the material he/she puts out every once in a while.

Posted by KnitGuy on 10/22/2009 at 8:46 AM

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Graduating from a place like Berkeley, I would have hoped the culture of enlightenment would have rubbed off on you, Rachel Swan, but it obviously hasn't. Perhaps you find your little jib-jab at knitting and knitting culture hilariously clever. Well, it isn't. You just come off as a snide and ignorant person. As a proud graduate of Berkeley myself (1996), I am quite ashamed to call you a fellow alum.

Posted by Beargrad on 10/22/2009 at 8:35 AM

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If it takes you longer to clean your house than to knit a sweater, you must have one really dirty house. Just sayin'...

Posted by Susan Santos on 10/22/2009 at 8:33 AM

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Next time you get someone to write about knitting, how about you get someone who knows what they're talking about? Flower arranging takes a few minutes, knitting, an ancient craft, takes considerably longer, even for the most simple garment. And as far as snideness about doom, gloom, macrame and control, the fact is that even in the most highly industrialized consumer-driven society the world has ever known (the US) there are lots and lots of things not in the stream of commerce, comfy chemo caps and practical preemie caps among them. So lighten up on the 'tude, OK?

Posted by TECHknitter on 10/22/2009 at 7:58 AM

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Actually, I think a Stitch and Bitch might be just the thing for you. At least you've already got the bitch part down.

This is an unbelievably snarky, uninformed, and insulting piece of writing.

Posted by Hanna on 10/22/2009 at 7:42 AM

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Good heavens. With that attitude, are you trying to get people to come, or drive them away in droves?

I'm glad to know that my impatient, well-heeled self derives a sense of satisfaction from creating my own accessories only when economic doom threatens. I guess once the economy recovers I'll be happy to go from handknit lace which took half a year to create back to $10 scarves from Rue 21.

Posted by Laura H on 10/22/2009 at 7:40 AM

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So an event for impatient, clumsy women wasting their time with knitting is the "Critic's Choice". I shudder to think what the alternatives were.

Posted by Daniela Berger on 10/22/2009 at 7:37 AM

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For your ignorant information, people have been knitting since before the dark ages. Granted it was out of necessity, which is generally no longer the case, but it is by no means a fad destined to ‘die off’.

People, both women and men, knit for various reasons. I find it very useful outlet for my creative energy, as when I’ve completed a project I have a wearable item.

Suggesting that because we live in a mechanized society hand made is inferior is just wrong; would you say the same of a couture evening gown? You obviously have never been gifted a pair of hand made merino socks; and with your attitude most likely never will.

Posted by karen on 10/22/2009 at 7:23 AM

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ART HOUSE GALLERY & San Francisco's Summer of Love Review" Presents:
A Hippie Halloween Costume & Dance Party
STARRING LIVE IN PERSON COUNTRY JOE McDONALD " (who performed at Woodstock in 1969)
+ 5 LIVE Tribute BANDS
Pearl Essence as JANIS JOPLIN
Cosmo's Factory a Creedence Clearwater Revival
+ A costume contest and Fashion Show
+A 60s Psychedelic Light Show by LSD VISUALS

Saturday October 31st 2009
7pm door 8pm show
$13. Donation to Benefit Art House Gallery
Art House Gallery & Cultural Center
2905 Shattuck Ave. ( near Ashby Ave. Bart Station)
Berkeley CA 94705
for more info: 510-482-3336
Plenty of Free parking
Art House is wheelchair accessible

Posted by Harold Adler on 10/20/2009 at 8:02 PM

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"Since it doesn't require as much time, patience, or dexterity as, say, making flower arrangements, spackling a roof, or cleaning your own house..."

Are you people that ignorant? Have you ever knitted a lace shawl with 6,000 #8 glass beads attached one by one with a .75 mm crochet hook? Well, I have, and I can tell you that it takes more time, patience, and dexterity than any of the alternates listed in the above quote.

Snideness about knitting is merely disguised jealousy and ignorance. May you be forced to wear bullet-proof acrylic for the rest of your life, never knowing the softness, warmth and comfort of silk, cashmere, alpaca, and merino.

Posted by Debby Abrahams on 10/14/2009 at 8:14 AM

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Moh Alileche (pronounced ali LESH)

Moh was born and raised in the Mountains of the Kabylia region of Algeria. From his village, at the age of 9, he taught himself to play traditional Amazigh (Berber) music on a hand-made-single-stringed instrument (see photo below), evolving to a guitar and later to the North African 10-silkstringed mandol or "agember" in Tamazight language.

His talent on "agember" grew, soon he became known in his region for his skills as a musician, singer and songwriter, resulting in his very first radio (channel 2) interview in 1980 with hosts Medjahed Mouhoub and Mohamed Rachid in the capital city of Algiers.

Since his move to the USA in 1990, Moh has a captivated many American audiences with his authentic style. He has participated in a variety of events, including San Diego State International Festival UC Berkeley International Spring Festival, and San Francisco World Music Festival. After the release of the first CD, Tragedy in 2000, several Northern California radio stations have interviewed Moh, including KPFA 94.1 in Berkeley and KALW 91.7 in San Francisco. In 2001, some of his music was incorporated in a movie documentary entitled "The Visionary".

As he moves on to new projects, Moh wishes to continue promoting the music and culture of his Amazigh ancestors of North Africa, bringing their joys and struggles to consciousness of even broader international audiences


Moh Alileche Ensemble:

Moh , vovals, mondol

Sara Salzmann, violin

John Waller hand drum

Tim Fuson, bendir (large frame drum)

Kami, keyboard

Flag of Freedom Productions
P.O.BOX 2720
Berkeley, CA 94702 USA
For More Info: Harold Adler 510-472-3170

Posted by Harold Adler on 10/03/2009 at 12:23 PM

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> RAMANA VIEIRA and Ensemble: The New Voice Of Portuguese
> World Music
> Friday October 2 2009
> Doors at 7:00p.m.
> Show is at 8:00p.m.
> Admission: $10 - $15 Donation to benefit Art House Gallery
> 18+
> Art House, Gallery & Cultural Center
> 2905 Shattuck Ave.,
> Berkeley, CA,
> 94705
> 510-472-3170

> Opening act is: ROBERT GORDON and his ALLSTAR REVIEW

> ABOUT: RAMANA VIEIRA and Ensemble: The New Voice Of
> Portuguese World Music
> Hailed as a “rising star in world music” by The San
> Francisco Examiner, Ramana Vieira is a powerful vocalist
> with a deep connection to the Portuguese tradition of fado
> singing. Her work combines new musical textures and original
> compositions, bending the groove of Shakira with the melodic
> nuances of Dulce Pontes.
> One of the premier contemporary fado artists today, Ramana
> sings with a wide range of emotions that recall images of
> old-world Portugal. She has opened for Grammy-nominated
> fadista Mariza, performed her original song “Unido Para
> Amar” for the 2006 Winter Olympics video montage, and was
> chosen to sing for the Grammy’s 50th Awards special
> “Music Cares” benefit to honor Aretha Franklin.
> Ramana has recorded three albums: Despi A Alma (“I
> Undressed My Soul”), Sem Ti, and Lágrimas De Rainha
> (“Tears Of A
> Queen”)—the most recent appearing on the Pacific Coast
> Jazz label and poignantly revealing Ramana’s desire to
> invent a fresh fado sound blooming from the ground of her
> own family roots.
Opening for Ramana Vieira is Robert Gordon and his ALLSTAR REVIEW

> ###

Posted by Harold Adler on 10/02/2009 at 12:01 AM

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3 Ring Bingo Continues! October 8 and November 12
Join Rhythmix on Thursday October 8 for a special edition- FRIGHT BINGO!
Costumes are always encouraged but this month put your best foot forward in our costume contest. Winner gets a spooktacular prize from Lucky Lucy herself!

Posted by Cynthia on 09/25/2009 at 2:49 PM

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