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Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

Typical EBX drivel.(Identity Politics) This corner park has been a serious health and safety threat for years, and you know it. Drug dealing, defecation and unhealthy sanitary conditions. I am happy the city is finally doing something about it, I encourage development. Oakland needs to continue to encourage new massive infill market rate development. Maybe EBX should join forces with Indy Bay and safe us all from.....How about setting up camp in front of the home of one of Wells Fargo's board of trustee's. Some of them live here too.

Posted by jay mac on 01/16/2017 at 10:16 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I've heard the "diversity of tactics" so many times before. It's code for property destruction. I can see taking over space, or blocking a roadway for a period of time. But the babies who want to smash windows and light things on fire should be exposed and ejected by the group.

Posted by Rob Walker on 01/16/2017 at 8:57 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

The article also mentions plans for the park's "renovation, using a $456,000 grant, [that ostensibly] would transform the area into a welcoming space for all," but fails to discuss the current status of those plans. Isn't that the heart of the story -- even if a clique of self-appointed arbiters of "Black Joy" meanwhile have a plan of their own that they seek to impose on the neighborhood instead?

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 01/16/2017 at 8:41 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

If, indeed, "a group of neighbors had complained for years that the sliver of land was a magnet for illegal drug use and crime," why weren't any of them interviewed for this story? For that matter, those neighbors were evidently there for years: were all of them white? As neighbors (not to mention other passers-by) did they find that park intimidating?

A power play is a power play -- a battle for control (with conflicting cultural norms being weaponized by both sides). "Displacement" cuts both ways.

Posted by Mitchell Halberstadt on 01/16/2017 at 8:26 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

@jerome funkhauser
your use of the phrase 'black joy' is disgusting.

Posted by Neck Stuffing on 01/16/2017 at 7:50 PM

Re: “For MLK Holiday, Activists Tear Down Fence and Take Over Oakland's St. Andrew's Plaza in the Name of 'Black Joy'

Good to see the plaza opened up again as it has been a bastion of black joy for decades. Drug use, prostitution, violence, public defecation and various other forms of black joy on display for the whole world to see.

Posted by Jerome Funkhauser on 01/16/2017 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

I think you are understanding my point. There is no true clarity that Cat Brooks (or you?) is actually opposed to property damage. Nor is it clear that is she supportive of it.

Her lack of a call for property damage is, therefore, not an indicator of her support of lack of it. My call is for her to speak plainly about it.

If you trace back to your earlier postings, you said:

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"For the record: Neither I, nor APTP, have ever made a call for property damage."

hello.

what part of this is unclear?

some of the readers are playing stupid. cat made it crystal clear what the stance is on property damage.
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So, hello, you do see what is unclear. It is clear that she did not make a call for property damage. It remains unsaid and unclear exactly how she actually feels about it.

Up to her to make decide whether or not she actually wants to be clear or obfuscate. And, as I said, maybe there is no nuance here. Maybe, she is actually quite opposed to property damage. That would be nice.

Posted by Michael Good on 01/16/2017 at 5:24 PM

Re: “Housing Groups Slam Proposal to Redefine Affordable Housing in Oakland

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Posted by David Flinch on 01/16/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

michael good also wrote:

Of course, causing death is not the same as property damage. But, you appear to have missed the point. Just because you do not call for an activity, does not mean you are against it. So, in war, just because you did not order the soldier to kill does not mean you are against the soldier killing. And, in Oakland, just because you did not call for property damage does not mean you are against it. Silence is not innocence.

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it is not that i've missed the point, it's that you've failed to make a sound one.

in ordering a sandwich, just because you did not ask for pickles does not mean that you hate pickles - nor does it mean you like pickles. it only means you didn't ask for them.

in oakland, just because you did not call for property damage doesn't mean that you are for it, either.

it's neither here nor there.

you're trying to force a confession to determine guilt of an imagined war criminal when there is no need to do so.

Posted by Michelle Metiche on 01/16/2017 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Protest Trump's Inauguration in Oakland, But Please Don't Be Violent

michael good replied:

Come out and say it if you think any of these things are OK. Then tell us exactly what you and / or Brooks support."

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regarding the last part of your response, i have no obligation to tell you what i personally do or do not support. you're no authority to me, and this isn't an inquisition or a trial. i'm only responding to that which is available for both of us to read and react to - which is this piece written by cat brooks.

there is no way i can tell you what books supports. i'm not a mind reader, and neither are you. we are both reading what has been published in EBX.

Posted by Michelle Metiche on 01/16/2017 at 4:07 PM

Re: “Berkeley Social Club Is a Different Kind of Korean Restaurant

BTW, Pican's "Creole Spiced Bacon" is dead easy to make; I do it all the time at home. Didn't even need a recipe to figure that one out, LOL. We prefer it with a modest amt of brown sugar, we like our spicy bacon to taste balanced between sweet/salt and less like candied jerky.

Posted by Jean Komatsu 1 on 01/16/2017 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Oakland Congresswoman Barbara Lee To Boycott Trump Inauguration

Thank you Congresswoman Lee for standing up to an unprincipled, bigoted and immature individual by NOT attending the inauguration - we are a great country because of principled politicians like you!

Posted by Amy R. Booe on 01/16/2017 at 7:33 AM

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